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From: "Jan Miller" <>
Subject: Re: [GEN-NYS] Death in 1840's ? (KIDDER)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:00:48 -0700
Use the Census.
NYS has census records for every decade including 1840. I've used them to
find and 'track' a person--can see when they came and left -- no longer
appear there. Then go for land sales that decade, where they might have
sold property before leaving.
At Ancestry.com I enter the surname with no location other than the state
and see what comes up. Plan to search for a while, because even in 1840,
NYS was burgeoning in size. Some of the boundaries were still being settled
also. It might take a while, but it's worth it, if it solves the problem.
a lot of ancestors from very early NYS and it works if you're patient.
Vitals in that period are usually the result of a local genealogical
society's compilation of information--cemeteries, births, marriages, etc.
Because NYS is an original colony/state, they have MANY records--and
a long time to have made them accessible. If you find him in a certain
location, the next thing is to find the nearest community in the REDBOOK
having a Genealogical or Historical Society. They hold a lot of local
information in their collections. History of the county as well.
See what else was happening--like completion of a canal, a railroad line,
a reservoir, etc.Some often worked at these tasks and moved along with
the progress of the work.
Jan in California
Originally[--and forever--a New Yorker] ;-))
----- Original Message -----
From: "Betty" <>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:18 AM
Subject: [GEN-NYS] Death in 1840's ? (KIDDER)
> Many people have been looking for the information on where Wilder KIDDER
> last lived. He was a "famous and animated Fifer" during the
> Revolutionary War. He fought in several states, including Valley Forge,
> and married in NJ to Lucretia MIDDAGH (sp?). At some point returned to
> (Tioga?) and lived there for a while. But, in 1818, he was living in
> Jaffrey, NH, where he applied for his pension. He and his wife were
> there in 1820. They were in relatively good health and in their 60's.
> They did not die there, and no one knew where they went.
> I just heard this morning that there is a record showing that he was still
> alive in 1840 and was living in NY State. That is all I know. I've
> read before that "vital records" weren't available until much later in the
> 1800's. Does that mean there is really no way for me to find out if
> Wilder KIDDER died in NY State?
> His father, Joseph KIDDER, of Temple, NH, lived to Age 92, and many other
> KIDDER's have lived into their late 80's, at least. So, it wouldn't
> surprise me to find out that Wilder lived into his 80's. Wilder was
> in 1753.
> Betty (near Lowell, MA)
> It is Wilder's younger brother, Joseph KIDDER, Jr., who is the "mystery" I
> am working on this month. There were 2 Joseph KIDDER's, both teens,
> both seem to have been soldiers in the Rev. War and seem to have both been
> in Saratoga, NY, in Oct. 1777. But, one died there on Oct. 31, 1777,
> was buried there. And, one lived, and returned to his home in Temple,
> Different books vary on which one died. But, the book, "MA Soldiers"
> state that Joseph, b1761, son of Francis, was from Westford, MA, but was
> Shrewsbury, MA, when he signed up for the Regiment which was going to
> Saratoga. And, the town got the notice of "reported as died." (And
> Westford Hist. Soc. lists him as a soldier from their town.)
> I have just written an e-mail to the Shrewsbury Historical Society to ask
> they can "prove" that it was Joseph, b1761, who died at Saratoga and was
> buried there. And, I wrote to the Temple, NH, Historical Society last
> week to ask whether they have "proof" that it was Joseph KIDDER, Jr.,
> who lived in the town as an adult, and married there in 1795.
> The "KIDDER book" says that it was Joseph, b1761, son of Francis, who
> and moved to Temple, NH, to live near his uncle, and it was him who
> there in 1795. But the "marriage record" in the town says it was
> Jr., who married in 1795.
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