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From: "seabird" <>
Subject: Re: [trivvies] Competitiveness
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:06:49 -0000
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Sue.....this bothers me as I cant remember how much younger you are than me
but I don't remember clothes featuring very high in how I chose my friends.
Clothes were always bought a bit on the large size so that they lasted. I
had a pair of sandals for the summer and lace-ups for the winter plus
plimsolls for PE and, of course, wellies for wet weather. I also had last
year's sandals with the toes cut out for 'play' the following summer. In
fact, I was like the rest of the children in my class. At least I had shoes
and sandals.....the poorer kids had to wear plimsolls all the time.

I certainly wasn't like today's kids, always wanting the latest - and the
most expensive - trainers. I look at the clothes my grandkids have and I'm
very grateful I'm not responsible for their clothes!!! I was very hard on
my children as I bought them up the same way as I was brought up. Money was
scarce and I wasn't borrowing to buy them the fancy trainers.

But that's me. I take the person for what they are, not how they are
dressed. Yes, first impressions count and it is important to be clean and
neat but I certainly don't know about designer labels or any of that
rubbish. What I buy has to look good on me and be good value for money.
Maggie
============

As a nipper I had to compete for friends --- I never wore the latest clothes
for instance, & this was, believe it or not, a great hindrance in my world
back then ... In the end - around 15 - I thought, bu**** it, & went my own
sweet way ... But ---- in a way I regretted that decision - cos I've gone
through life not competing for friendships & consequently, not having very
many friends ... In other words - I learnt that you can't have it both ways
..

I had to fight for a better education for my son, Peter .. He too, like Andy
is dyslexic, & we were living in an area whose LEA didn't believe dyslexia
exists - they still don't ... We had to appeal against decision after
decision that that LEA was making about our son's education .... We won in
the end - but it shouldn't have been necessary ...

Like you, I've always striven to do everything I do in life, to the best of
my ability & usually, like you, I think I've succeeded, but it's not been
easy & certainly not without competition from one source or another ....

Sue ---- who always tries to blend in the background - but who never quite
manages to do it ... :-)))) ...


As for competitiveness, I never found it necessary "to compete for jobs,
mates, the house we want, a better education if we are able to, etc." What
drove me on was the desire to do a job - any job - well and to the best of
my
ability. Competing with myself, if you like, but that attitude never let me
down.

Howard


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Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 7:14 PM
Subject: [trivvies] Competitiveness


> Sharon, Life is about being competitive whether we like it or not. We
compete
> for jobs, mates, the house we want, a better education if we are able to,
> etc.
> I can see no point in the attitude that no child is allowed to be a loser,
as
> seems to be the case these days. I do agree there is room for sports as
just
> a game as well, and all children should be made to take part in the full
> school subjects be that sport or academic, but at the same time if they
are
> not good enough they don't make the first team,
> a fact of life, learn to live with it, because before long you are going
to
> have to live in the real world. It seems to me there is far too much
wrapping
> kids up in cotton wool these days, far too many unearned rights, resulting
in
> a general lack of discipline, and an increasing amount of violence by
young
> children who know only too well not a thing will be done to punish them.
> While I realise we are talking about a minority, it would be well to
remember
> that this minority of ruthless thugs will most likely end up ruling their
> little parts of the country by force in a few years time, and the good
kids
> now will be the ones to suffer when they are older because we as adults
> failed to civilise the brats while it was still possible.
> No offence meant, just my opinion.
> Gail
>
> > I dont like "competitive" sport I wish the schools would show children
they
> > can participate for the fun of it rather than the winning. Try going to
a
> > Sunday league football match when the children are playing. There is no
fun
> > in it fathers stand on the sidelines abusing anything and everything
that
> > moves. In fact the junior leagues are worse than adult matches.
> >
> > My sons school is landlocked and takes the pupils elsewhere for their
sport
> > but the other day the sports hall was being used by something else and
what
> > did they do, let the kids watch a video of Lord of the Rings. I was not
too
> > impressed on that. Here's everyone going on about health and fitness and
> > every opportunity they get they let them stay in class. They only have
one
> > lesson a week now as it is.
> >
> > We had PE every day when I was at school, rounders, netball, trampoline
all
> > sorts now you talk to the children and its as if they dont know what you
> > are
> > talking about !!
> >
> > Sharon xx
>
>
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