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From: "s.lloyd9" <>
Subject: Re: [GENBOX] To Witness or not to Witness (output on Reports)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 23:55:59 +0100
References: <FFEBLNNBNENFDKOPJEBPIEBDDNAA.paulharris@nc.rr.com> <013a01c356e7$6a48dce0$d604ff3e@default> <00b901c3570d$11d503b0$4240880a@BILLXP>


Hi Bill,
Thanks for your reply and for pointing out how you can switch off
witnesses in reports, but one thing is puzzling me, wouldn't everyone who
uses Witnesses include [WW] or
> [WWR] in their template codes? Otherwise they end up with the list of
witnesses, who have no roles, at the end of Primary individual's sentence.
As no one else has queried this I think I must have missed something very
obvious <g>
Going back to the Family Group Report that I'm trying produce, can you
think of any way that I can include Birth Events in an Event Group without
the Childbirth Events appearing as additional Births for the parents? What
I'm looking for is the Basic BMDB report with the addition of Baptism and
Employment for all individuals in a family. Again I'm sorry if the answer is
obvious.
Many thanks to everyone who answered my query, you've given me much food
for thought, not that I'm capable of much thought at the moment having spent
the last couple of days moving boxes and beds from one place to another.My
daughter, who is coming back to live here for a while, arrived a fortnight
ago with the accumulated possessions of four years of university and one
year of teaching. She filled one bedroom and the hall and promptly left for
a holiday in Thailand. As my youngest son had only just returned from his
first year at University with an almost equal number of boxes, the house is
in chaos and I'm exhausted <g>

Sally

----- Original Message -----
From: "William T. Flight" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: [GENBOX] To Witness or not to Witness (output on Reports)


> Hi Sally,
>
> You can control whether witnesses to events are included on reports by
> changing the setting for "Event detail" on the Report Content page. The
> default setting for Event detail is "Full", which means date, local site,
> place, and witnesses are output. If you change this to any other value,
such
> as "Date, local site, place", then witnesses will be omitted, unless they
> are specifically mentioned in a sentence template with either the [WW] or
> [WWR] template codes.
>
> Looking at this behavior now, the handling of witness detail should
instead
> be consistent with the event detail handling of dates and places: When set
> to "Full", witnesses should appear if specifically mentioned in the
sentence
> template; when set to other values, witnesses should be omitted regardless
> of whether they are in the sentence template.
>
> But this change would mean all users would need to append "<. Witnesses:
> [WWR]>" to every sentence template in order to see any witnesses on
> reports...
>
> Maybe I will add a Report Preferences option: a checkbox named "Auto-add
> event witnesses when [WWR] missing". That would maintain the current
> behavior, but allow others to control which events are shown with
witnesses.
>
> -- Bill
>
> William T. Flight
> http://www.thoughtfulcreations.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "s.lloyd9" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [GENBOX] To Witness or not to Witness
>
>
> > Hi Paul,
> > I haven't played with Witnesses for several months, but I do remember
> that
> > you get the list of Witnesses added to the Primary individual sentence
> > unless you alter the Event Template for the Primary Individual so that
it
> > includes reference to the role of each witness. You can of course also
do
> > this in the Sentence Preview window on a sentence by sentence basis
which
> I
> > was doing until Wim pointed out the downside of doing it this way. I
> would
> > like the ability to choose whether to have the witnesses mentioned in
the
> > Primary Individual sentence or not. Any Notes attached to the Primary
> > Individual's Event also appear attached to the witness sentence as far
as
> I
> > remember.
> >
> > Sally
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul J. Harris" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: [GENBOX] To Witness or not to Witness
> >
> >
> > > Denise wrote:
> > >
> > > >>I used a different application for a number of years. Unfortunately,
> > that
> > > application did not export to a GEDCOM individuals assigned the status
> of
> > > "Witness" in an event. That made transferring information to a PDA or
> > > another family searcher difficult. However, Genbox does include
> > "Witnesses"
> > > in the GEDCOM information. That I find especially useful when using my
> > PDA.
> > > I do not have to duplicate census entries, who is identified in
probate
> > > events, or even business partners for a Pacific Coast coal shipping
> > company.
> > > All that information, to include sources, is available directly from
> > Genbox
> > > or the PDA.
> > >
> > > Hi Denise,
> > >
> > > After your post I experimented a little with the witness feature for a
> > > census record. I'm sure I didn't play long enough to get to know it
> well,
> > > but two things bothered me. Perhaps, with your experience, you can
> > enlighten
> > > me.
> > >
> > > First, as someone pointed out on this list recently, when the sentence
> for
> > > the Primary individual is generated, it contains a list of the
> witnesses,
> > > which can't seem to be turned off.
> > >
> > > Second, when the sentence for a witness generates, the source citation
> for
> > > that sentence refers to the source for the primary individual, even if
> > > another source is entered on the witness list. It would seem that if
the
> > > witness is sourced separately, that should be the source used when
> > > generating the sentence about the witness. Is this a feature or a bug?
> > >
> > > Paul
>
>
>
>
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