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From: "Frank Mathie" <>
Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Source View & Citation Problem
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 21:56:14 +0100
References: <HLENKFAGJBOMJKOMBBPJIEMODLAA.paulharris@nc.rr.com> <429B4D74.6010708@chello.nl> <001501c56602$937ae640$0200a8c0@quortrup30> <007901c56610$69c0cc80$0200a8c0@Math> <00b201c5661c$92beea70$03340c52@homepc>


Sally,

Yes it has, thanks to Wim for that!
and I thought I was doing so well
:o)

regards

Frank

(Head down,shoulders rounded and eyes averted, Mathie exits with shuffling
feet)



----- Original Message -----
From: "s.lloyd9" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Source View & Citation Problem


> Hi Frank,
> I'm using the roughly the same set up and my census sources look ok, has
> Wim's suggestion put things right for you? When you view the lower source
> does it have the 'open book' symbol beside the word 'Type' on the General
> Tab?
>
> Sally
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Mathie" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Source View & Citation Problem
>
>
>> Hi Clare
>>
>> I have the same thing happening. I have changed US Census to Census to
>> reflect my UK research, and have defined a a high level source "1901
>> Census", with it's level set as "source"based`on that . I then have a low
>> level source template named "Census Household" with it's level set as a
>> document in the Higher Source.
>> In the higher source template I have formatted the labels for Census
>> year, county PRO ref etc, but like you, when I view my source for the
>> 1901 Census based on that template, all but Name and Repository Place are
>> greyed out and none of the data shows in the formatting
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Frank
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Claire Quortrup" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Source View & Citation Problem
>>
>>
>> the Census (U.S.) type source template are correct and
>>> that is the exact same template in the Source View "Formatting." In the
>>> Source Template nothing is grayed out.
>>>
>>> In the Source View on the General page I have:
>>>
>>> Type: Census (U.S.)
>>> Schedule: Gray
>>> Name: Not Gray
>>> Author: Gray
>>> Page, etc: Gray
>>> County: Gray
>>> Household: Gray
>>> Census Year: Gray
>>> Repository: Place - Not Gray
>>> Source Locator: Gray
>>>
>>> Using the Default Template Codes on the Formatting page, which are the
>>> exact same codes found on the Source Template view I get the following
>>> Citation for this Source:
>>>
>>> "U. S. Census, Ancestry.Com Online Database Image."
>>>
>>> The "Ancestry.Com Online Database Image" is entered on the Notes Page of
>>> the Source. As a matter of fact the only page of the Source View that
>>> has information Grayed out is the General Page.
>>>
>>> I know that the Citation from this source was formatting correctly prior
>>> to the last update. However, if I am the only one having this problem
>>> then there must be something wrong with my GB program.
>>>
>>> As I said before I have done all the usual Maintenance procedures plus
>>> extra virus and spyware scanning and nothing seems to be wrong and all
>>> of my other programs do not have any problems.
>>>
>>> Any help at all would be very appreciated.
>>>
>>> Claire
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "wim prange" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 12:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Source View & Citation Problem
>>>
>>>
>>>> You're absolutely right! (damn laptop, it was hard to notice the
>>>> difference)
>>>>
>>>> This will probably explain Claire's problem: the grayed fields are not
>>>> present in the template.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Wim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul J. Harris schreef:
>>>>> Wim,
>>>>>
>>>>> We seem to be using different programs. I have always found it to be
>>>>> the
>>>>> other way around. <g>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: wim prange [mailto:]
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 4:22 PM
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Source View & Citation Problem
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Claire,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you in Sources-View or in Source Templates-View?
>>>>>
>>>>> In Source-templates, when fields are grayed out, it means the code for
>>>>> that particular field is not included in the template but I have not
>>>>> seen this behaviour in Sources.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gr. Wim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Claire Quortrup schreef:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Something strange just showed up. On the General Page of a US Census
>>>>>>Type source nearly all the entry spaces are grayed out. The
>>>>>>information
>>>>>>I had entered is still there but grayed out and is not being picked up
>>>>>>on the Formatting page of the source nor in the citation. This is
>>>>>>giving
>>>>>>me a citation which reads:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"U S Census Ancestry.com Online Database Image." [This last is the
>>>>>>note
>>>>>>entered]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is all of the source that is printing or showing on the Citation
>>>>>>view. I know this source was printing correctly earlier, since I have
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>report with the full citation as it should be. Now all I get is the
>>>>>>above. On the General page the only lines not grayed are "Name" and
>>>>>>"Repository - Place."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tried to enter a new US Census source and have the same problem. Have
>>>>>>checked the US Census Template and all seems to be in order there.
>>>>>>Checked other Sources and found others also had grayed out entry lines
>>>>>>including Journal and Probate File
>>>>>>Types.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Have done all the usual maintenance procedures. Could this be a bug
>>>>>>picked up in the last update or is it something I am doing wrong? I
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>not worked extensively with GB lately so can not say when this first
>>>>>>occurred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any ideas any one what the problem might be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Claire
>>>>>>
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