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From: "Cheri Casper" <>
Subject: RE: [GENBOX] Places in Sentence Output
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:05:42 -0700
In-Reply-To: <20050624032431.ESVW12227.gx4.fuse.net@BILLXP>


Bill - But there is NO citation to the Local Site, just to the event as a
whole in the instances to which I am referring and provided examples
(Dimmick Ellington Casper). Surety is a moot point for me because I don't
use it.

Additionally, Bill, here is an example of an event where only the local site
has a citation. Note: There is no double preposition and the reference
number appears at the end of the entire place string. Perhaps this is
reflective of the change to "merge all citations" option that I modified for
the preview report??? Sentence preview > Thomas Dimic Casper was buried in
Highland Park Cemetery, Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., Kansas.1 Only the name
of the cemetery has the citation attached to it.

I've also noticed that a lot of my events that formerly had sentences, no
longer do. When you open up the event, the sentence selector says "custom,"
but no sentence appears at all to the right of it.

My head is spinning!

Cheri

-----Original Message-----
From: William T. Flight [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:25 PM
To:
Subject: RE: [GENBOX] Places in Sentence Output


Hi Cheri,

I believe the two-preposition format appears when there is a source citation
on the local site that is not on the higher place, so that the footnote
number can be placed correctly after just the local site portion. If the
place name was shown as a whole with the footnote appearing after the higher
place, it would suggest that the referenced source named the entire place as
shown.

Also, if the surety levels differ between the local site and the higher
place, the place name may appear in this two-part format, so that any
qualifiers, such as "perhaps" or "probably", have a place to go.

--Bill

William T. Flight
http://www.thoughtfulcreations.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cheri Casper [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:23 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [GENBOX] Places in Sentence Output
>
> Wim - Not typos. Copy & paste from sentence preview. Two
> prepositions, no
> comma.
>
> CheriC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wim prange [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:31 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Places in Sentence Output
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I was wondering about the prepositions with CheriC's sentence: "in
> Machpelah Cemetery in Lexington".
>
> I can't manage to produce two prepositions with only the
> [L]-code, only
> the lowest level can get a preposition to my knowledge. So where do
> these come from? The places table, the eventtemplate, or from
> the event
> itself?
> There is also no comma between the two levels in CheriC's example as
> well in yours. Typing errors or is this the way it is generated?
>
> Gr. Wim
>
>
> Paul J. Harris schreef:
> > I'll chime in to say that I have noticed this problem as
> well, but haven't
> > felt I could get enough information about the circumstances
> to report it.
> > Perhaps others could verify if some of my observations
> agree with what
> they
> > are seeing:
> >
> > 1. I believe this problem only shows up when the Place
> starts with a Local
> > Site.
> >
> > 2. When it happens, I see prepositions before both place
> levels, i.e.,
> "...
> > married AT St. John's Episcopal Church IN Columbus."
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Claire Quortrup [mailto:]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:46 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Places in Sentence Output
> >
> >
> > Hi to all,
> >
> > This problem is not limited to a Burial Event. I have found it to be
> > random and inconsistent as you say Kathy. Have noticed it
> for sometime
> > but not sure when it started. On Custom Narrative reports I
> saved that
> > printed correctly when I originally created them I now have place
> > levels that should be printing leaving out county or state.
> >
> > Claire
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kathy Lenerz" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Places in Sentence Output
> >
> >
> >
> >>wim prange wrote:
> >>
> >>>In that Options-report, is [L~] Lowest non-blank maybe checked?
> >>>Or else, what are the place-settings for the preview-report?
> >>>Settings that have on effect on places appear on the Content-tab
> >>>(Event detail), Style-tab (events detail order), Detail-tab and
> >>>Format-tab (short places, place context).
> >>
> >>Wim,
> >>I originally thought it might be the preview-report settings, but
> >>now I don't think so. I have no preview-report selected, so I
> >>thought the preview was just using options from the last report I
> >>generated. I tried using different report options, as you suggest,
> >>but that had no effect.
> >>
> >>This problem is random and inconsistent. When I try to generate it,
> >>I can't. Since yesterday, it has happened to me once. But when I
> >>went back to that preview a few minutes after it happened, the
> >>preview was fine.
> >>
> >>Cheri-- I haven't kept systematic track of when I've seen the
> >>problem, but I've been adding a lot of obits recently, so maybe it's
> >>the Burial event that's the problem.
> >>
> >>Kathy
> >>
> >>
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