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From: "Cheri Casper" <>
Subject: Re: [GENBOX] source citations and templates
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:41:11 -0800
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Paul - I do the same when I'm wishy-washy on how a source should be created:
I attach the links and come back later to fix the source formatting. To
trigger a revisit, I put an asterisk before the source name in the name
field. Than way, when I look at the Source Picklist, I can quickly see
which ones need work. If the Picklist is sorted alpha by name, all of these
will float to the top of the list.

CheriC

-----Original Message-----
From: [mailto:] On
Behalf Of Paul J. Harris
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:22 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GENBOX] source citations and templates

Tom,

You bring up a good point that I had forgotten I use. Another advantage to
relying on the template to format your citations comes when I have a new
source that I don't have a clue as to how to format the citation, but I can
go about my business of creating the citation links that the source
supports. Once those are established, I can return at my leisure to format
the template so all of the citations are 'correct,' at least until I change
them again. <g>

The point being: Just because I don't know the correct format, I am not held
back in citing my sources.

Paul



----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Tom Pajak" <>
To: "'Paul J. Harris'" <>, <>
Received: 2/9/2009 7:11:37 AM
Subject: RE: [GENBOX] source citations and templates


>As a beginner in setting up accurate citations, I now attest to that
>approach. I am using, as an experiment to gain knowledge, only 4 sources.
>However they are referenced in 3 or 4 times as many places. By establishing
>a template which covers this specific type source, I have already saved a
>great deal of time. I was already half way through entering the citations
>when I spotted a problem. All I had to do was change the template to
correct
>the problem. At this point, I am not assuming that I have the format
exactly
>as it is supposed to be. The use of a template allows me to proceed even
>though I may yet find a flaw, as it will be readily correctable.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [mailto:] On
>Behalf Of Paul J. Harris
>Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:45 PM
>To:
>Subject: Re: [GENBOX] source citations and templates

>Kathy,

>I am in *complete* agreement with you on this. As long as we are building
>databases, parsing the 'bits' of data as much as possible can only benefit
>us in the long run. Say you have 5000 citations to census records and one
>day in the future the accepted convention was to place the Enumeration
>District in square brackets ([]). If all of your citations are formatted
>text in the CD field, you would have to edit all 5000 citations
individually
>to accomplish this change. With the ED parsed to a data field, simply
>changing the template(s) would take care of everything. That's the route I
>am following!

>Paul

>----- Original message ----------------------------------------
>From: Kathy <>
>To:
>Received: 2/6/2009 11:50:16 AM
>Subject: Re: [GENBOX] source citations and templates


>>Don Zochert wrote:
>>> So, really, there's no benefit
>>> in cranking up the spreadsheet and trying to chart the relationship
>>> between the Mills recommendations and the Genbox defaults. You'll
>>> discover what you already know. Also, her recommendations might change
>>> by the next edition.

>>Actually, Don, one of the reasons I use templates instead of going
>>freeform like you is because of the "changeability" issue. _Evidence!_
>>showed most citations going from the smalles unit to the largest; EE has
>>reversed that (supposedly based on what databases can accommodate). It
>>was easier to change one template than it would have been to change
>>every source.

>>Just another thought on the matter,
>>Kathy
>>
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