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GENBRIT-D DigestVolume 97 : Issue 132

Today's Topics:
#1 East Family [ (Beth Stott]
#2 Re: Journalists [ (Shirley B]
#3 NESBITT [ (Shwkrp)]
#4 LARNER (Berwick-On-Tweed area) [ (Shwkrp)]
#5 Re: Female Protection Society [Dave Smith <]
#6 Re: ROVINGDEN: Phantom Kent place [Dave Smith <]
#7 The History Net - Where History Li [ (Marjorie Jodoi]
#8 Scottish GENUKI pages: volunteers [ (Vivienne S]
#9 Ayrshire- Scotland []
#10 Ref: Railway employees [ (terry si]

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X-Message: #1
Date: 3 Oct 1997 03:33:26 -0700
From: (Beth Stott)
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Subject: East Family
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Hi All

Thankyou to everyone that has helped me with the East family. I now have
somewhere to look for the information that I require. I still have not
found Charlotte or Robert East.

There has been some discussion for two children having the same name. Well
it has happened in the East family. John East had a son Robert East in
England to Charlotte, he also had a son called Robert in Tasmania,
Australia to a Sarah Ambury.

Thanks for all your help

Beth Stott
Tasmania
Australia

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X-Message: #2
Date: 3 Oct 1997 04:10:44 -0700
From: (Shirley Burns)
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Subject: Re: Journalists
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Where would I write to find out details of a journalist during WW1 in
London?
Regards
Regards

Shirl!
Alice Springs
Northern Territory, Australia

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X-Message: #3
Date: 3 Oct 1997 11:19:19 GMT
From: (Shwkrp)
To:
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Subject: NESBITT

Looking for info on the James Nesbitt family from Berwick-on-Tweed, Eng. Came
to New Brunswick in 1837 and settled in Harvey Station. James married about
1802/3 Elspeth ______. (Think she may have been a Carr and I have a Family
Bible from this line that says in it, George Carr, his book. Bible published
in 1776.)

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X-Message: #4
Date: 3 Oct 1997 11:22:56 GMT
From: (Shwkrp)
To:
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Subject: LARNER (Berwick-On-Tweed area)

John Larner come to New Brunswick during the Aroostook War in the 1830's,
deserted, hid out in the Harvey Station, NB woods and was found by his future
wife, Elspeth Nesbitt. Have an idea that he might have been from the
Berwick-On-Tweed, Eng. area. John was b. c1815. Would appreciate any info.

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X-Message: #5
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:15:35 +0100
From: Dave Smith <>
To:
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Subject: Re: Female Protection Society

In article <>, liz
<> writes
>The Female Protection Society Home was (in 1890) at
>151(or7or9)Marylebone Road,London.
>Poor little Eliza,19yrs,a staymaker from Old Bow Road,an orphan since
>the age of 12,was there with her baby Albert when he died of Acute
>Bronchitis at 1 month old.
>Does anyone know anything about this organisation? The title is
>self-explanatory but what sort of people might they have been?
>BTW for those of a caring disposition Eliza did marry when she was 27,a
>railway porter.Happy ever after,one hopes:-)
>

I believe that the Greater London Record Office may have some papers
from this Society. I was there a week or two ago lokking for details of
the Mission of Hope Homes - a similar function. I am sure that I saw
papers relating to thsi Society too.

HTH.
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X-Message: #6
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:24:19 +0100
From: Dave Smith <>
To:
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Subject: Re: ROVINGDEN: Phantom Kent place name?

In article <v01540b00b059eab133fd@[207.23.94.164]>, John Ashworth
<> writes
>At the time of her marriage in Australia in 1860, a certain Jane Battam's
>birthplace was recorded as Rovingden, Kent. This looks like a place name in
>Kent; it has the feel of a County of Kent town or village. However, there
>is no recognition of this reported place name in the Ordnance online
>service nor can I find it an any gazeteer.
>
>It would seem that Rovingden went through a transformed sea change into
>something rich and strange on its way to Australia. Does this apparently
>spurious name conjure up an associations in Kent?
>

Try Rolvenden

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X-Message: #7
Date: 3 Oct 1997 05:46:11 -0700
From: (Marjorie Jodoin)
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Subject: The History Net - Where History Lives on the Web
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Here's a nifty website to explore when trying to fill in the historical
background of an ancestor. There's a section of eyewitness accounts and
a search engine for magazines etc.

Marge Jodoin, Seattle, WA

Checkout my webpage of Genealogical/Historical resources
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5209/index.html

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X-Message: #8
Date: 3 Oct 1997 06:32:30 -0700
From: (Vivienne S Dunstan)
To:
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Subject: Scottish GENUKI pages: volunteers wanted!
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As many of you will know, the UK & Ireland Genealogical
Information Service (also known as GENUKI) at

http://midas.ac.uk/genuki/

provides extensive information on genealogical resources
in the UK and also Ireland. For many counties this is
very detailed, down to the level of individual parishes.

At the moment just over half of the Scottish counties are
still looking for good homes i.e. people to adopt them
and develop the information base. If anyone would like
to help with this, or find out more information about
what would be involved, please get in touch with me.

Many thanks!

Viv Dunstan
email:
http://www.almac.co.uk/personal/vdunstan/

List of Scottish counties available for adoption:
(getting smaller all the time :)

Aberdeenshire
Argyll
Banffshire
Bute
Clackmannanshire
Dumbartonshire
Dumfriesshire
East Lothian
Kincardineshire
Moray
Nairnshire
Peeblesshire
Perthshire
Shetland
Stirlingshire
Sutherland
West Lothian
Wigtownshire

P.S. Help is always appreciated with the other counties.
Please get in touch if you think you could help with any
area, whether it's in the list above or not.

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X-Message: #9
Date: 3 Oct 1997 06:56:33 -0700
From:
To:
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Subject: Ayrshire- Scotland

Could someone please determine if the property [actually a farm] named Craig
still is in existence within Straiton area? In the 1891 Census it was a
working sheep farm under the ownership of James MCFARLANE & his wife, Jeannie
MCGARVAY/EY and their four children: James b 1878; Agnes b 1880; David b
1882; Gilbert b 1887. Are there any people in the Straiton area that are
possible descendants of this family? Thanks in advance.

John W. Jack

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X-Message: #10
Date: 3 Oct 1997 07:04:27 -0700
From: (terry silcock)
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Subject: Ref: Railway employees
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Hi Wayne aand others who may be interested

I am sending you a copy of how I replied to a similar enquiry.

RE: Copy of: Ref: Railway employees

Hi Susan in repsonse to your enquiry canI forward the following note

Ref recent posting on possible sources of information

I can recommend a book which lists locations of many relevant records:

Railway Ancestors - A Guide to the Staff Records of the Railway Companies
of England & WAles 1822-1947

Author David T Hawkings published by Alan Sutton Publishing Ltd in
conjunction with the Public Records Office.

ISBN: 0-7509-0883-1 published 1995 at 25 (UK Pouinds)

This book identifies which Railway records relating to staff matters still
exist and their locations At 507 pages it is a
more extensive work than that by the Fed. FHS.

To undertake any reserach it is necessary to know for which Railway Company
your ancestor worked.
This book has one appendix which lists the 988 (nine hundred and eighty
eight ) different companies which existed up to
nationalisation in 1947, this states the dates of the railway company, and
what records are held. There is also a listing by British Counties of
the individual Railways which should narrow the search.

the books does contain examples of the records held and a names index to
those included within the book. I found a SILCOCKS relative here, it was
reported that he was rewarded for preventing an accidient.

If you can identify the railway(s) were the ancestor might have worked it
will then be necessary to pay a visit to the public reocrds office at Kew
and search the documents there. Very few of these will be indexed!

DO NOT WRITE TO THE NATIONAL RAILWAY MUSEUM AT YORK, they will not be able
to help-- and it will divert their staff from other work. You will only
get a standard reply letter.

The book also mentions the staff magazines of the various railway
companies.
the earliest of these was published in the 188x and it was not until 1923,
when the major British railway companies
were reformed as four groups that each of the major railways had their
own staff magazine.
These magazines would be available for reference at the National Railway
Museum Library at York.
They do usually have an annual index, but there is no separate index of all
the staff members included.

I am NOT a professionla researcher, so cannot research for you at PRO
Hope this helps.

Terry Silcock,
Also undertaking one-name studies of: S I L C O C K, ( & variants) S C
O T T S, D O R E E in the South of England

P H I P P E N , PROWSE in London area

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