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GENBRIT-D DigestVolume 97 : Issue 154
Today's Topics:
#1 BDM Exchange update 11/10/97 [ (Graham]
#2 Re: What does Occupier mean on Bir ["Ekka" <>]
#3 Help ["Jenny" <>]
#4 Re: Mind Your P's & Q's? [Barney Tyrwhitt-Drake <]
#5 Cyber Cafes [ (Joan)]
#6 S.S. Saturnia - 1923 passenger lis ["Melinda Meredith" <]
#7 Born in France, returned to Scotla [Lesley Robertson <l.a.robertson@st]
#8 Re: Can anyone suggest [Lesley Robertson <l.a.robertson@st]
#9 Re: Are You a Royal? [Lesley Robertson <l.a.robertson@st]
#10 Re: Can anyone suggest [ (A.G. Mitchell)]
#11 Re: Email address [john[no_spam]@[no_spam]vetchfield.]
#12 Re: Mind Your P's & Q's? [MacKay <>]
#13 Indexing of passenger list for NY [.]
#14 Re: Passengers from Britain to Can [MacKay <>]
#15 Re: Can anyone suggest ["Grandad" <?@?.?>]
#16 MCLAREN/DUNBAR []
#17 LUCKEN [Anthony Lucken <.]
#18 Edwards/Coles []
#19 Hamerden, Hastingford, Cinderhill [ (Penny Gers]
#20 Looking for info on Hall [Joe Hall <>]
#21 Re: Subscribe [ (Alan J H]
#22 Roots to the past "Wortels naar he ["Theo Strik" <>]
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X-Message: #1
Date: 8 Oct 1997 23:00:44 -0700
From: (Graham Pitt)
To:
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Subject: BDM Exchange update 11/10/97
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We now have 120 births, 29 deaths, 69 marriages and 4 baptisms, 11 burials
and 1 Parish Marriage on the site -
let's take those figures into the thousands!
BIRTHS:
ADAMSMary Elizabeth15/03/1870
BAMFORDMargaret24/10/1884
BEAMAN William Harold 30/09/1899
BEAMAN William Edward 31/03/1868
BELLERRichard11/12/1873
BELLERGeorge13/02/1840
BELLERRichard George11/04/1896
BERNCASTEL Marie 30/11/1899
BERNCASTEL Hubert Edgar Ernest 24/4/1883
BERTRAND Adolphus Pierre Alexandre 18/07/1874
BLACKBURN Reginald 11/08/1903
BOGGISSJohn16/10/1855
BOND William 04/08/1850
BOOTHHenrietta3/4/1864
BROWN Philip David 20/03/1905
BUGGINS Charles 30/03/1843
BUGGINS Sarah Jane 31/01/1880
BURGESS Kate Agnes 28/09/1886
BURGESS Thomas Edward 27/11/1882
BURGESS Ellen Mary 28/03/1884
CAMPBELL William Michael 08/09/1872
CHAMBERSHerbert Frederick12/02/01
CHAPMANSarah Ann10/1/1855
CHAPMAN George Stedman 21/10/1848
CLARKAmelia Annie10/12/1888
COE Jane 09/03/1848
COLCLOUGHGrace Emily15/05/1880
COMLEY Annie Lilian 25/03/1893
COOPERCaroline2/1/1855
COOPERCaroline6/6/1856
CROSSAN Margaret Mary 02/03/1939
DALYWilliam16/9/1850
DALYMargaret21/6/1849
DALYMargaret25/12/1849
DAVIES James Hargreaves1849
DINGLE John Henry 15/02/1857
DINGLE George Alfred Percival 25/11/1885
DROUIN Hortense Anne Desiree 06/04/1849
DURRANT George Ernest 02/08/1877
ECCLES John Thomas 06/11/1876
ECCLES Edith 10/11/1911
EDWARDSHannah07/11/1889
ELSONElizabeth1/8/1837
FARRELLJulia 13/07/1861
FLEMING William 27/3/1884
FLEMING Robert 30/08/1852
FRENCHCaroline3/10/1839
FROST Hannah Catherine 15/10/1852
GILCHRISTGeorge16/04/10
GILCHRISTGeorge18/4/1861
GILLHAM Florence 10/04/1887
GREENEvelym20/04/11
GRIFFITHSGeorge Henry07/05/1844
GYEAlice Jane09/05/1856
HALLJohn10/10/1842
HAWORTH Mary 06/01/1877
HESSION John 22/09/1905
HICKFORD John 24/6/1843
HOLE Bertie John 26/12/1894
HOUGH Henry 19 April 1855
HUNTGeorge11/12/1839
HUTCHINSON William 02/02/1852
INGRAM Edward 22/9/1853
JONESLouie May14/11/1899
KENWRIGHT Annie Elizabeth 15/09/1870
KINGCatherine Louisa24/10/1898
KITCHING Reuben Hornby 23/05/1913
KITCHING Robert William 05/08/1886
KITCHING Stephen 29/11/1857
LAWRANCE Ellen 25/07/1885
LE SUEUR Charlotte Emma 20/08/1893
LE SUEUR Charles John 30/03/1862
MARSH Eliza 23/09/1837
MARSH Elizabeth 30/10/1837
MARSH Elizabeth 31/10/1837
MAY Elizabeth 18/3/1839
MOODYDoris Alice20/02/09
MOODYEdwin Charles18/03/1880
MOODYFrancis Frederick12/12/1855
MORRIS George Ernest 11/05/1877
MORRIS George Ernest 18/09/1877
MORRIS George Ernest 28/02/1874
MORRIS George Ernest 25/07/1875
PAXTONIsabella18/12/1866
PERRYRosetta20/04/1871
PHILLIPSArthur10/12/1896
PHILLIPSEdward Andew5/6/1859
PINCHON Ernest Treble 10/12/1867
PINCHON Nellie Treble 23/09/1901
PITTCharles Alfred29/12/1862
PITTGeorge Arthur6/1/1864
POPEEllen19/06/04
POPEGeorge29/03/05
POPEGeorge Charles18/05/05
POPECharles Henry02/02/1891
RAMSEY Walter James 03/12/1883
RAMSEY Priscilla 18/04/1916
RAMSEY Walter 19/01/1851
RICHARDS Albert Edward 10 June 1903
RIVE Selina 08/10/1849
SIMMONS Joseph 15/9/1839
SIMMONS Fanny Sarah 11/11/1841
TAYLORFrances25/10/1844
TAYLOR Ellen 2 February 1875
TOOLEY Ernest Matthew 6/2/1869
TOOLEY Edward 5/6/1842
TOOLEY Henry 7/4/1856
WALL George 29/05/1877
WALL George 10/03/1877
WATERS Agnes Jane 04/03/1862
WATTS Margaret Ann 17/12/1871
WATTS James 25/03/1842
WATTS Emma 14/01/1843
WELLSPercy Edward3/10/1888
WELLSPercy3/5/1867
WESTTryphena19/5/1838
WHITEJames24/9/1893
WILSONMonica May 02/05/1922
WOODRUFFEliza05/01/1842
WOODWARD William 23/05/1857
DEATHS:
ALLEN Henry 13/03/1984
ALLEN Edith 10/07/1996
BEAMAN Richard 24/03/1870
BEAMAN William Harrold 25/10/1969
BERTRAND Arsene 05/02/1933
DALYMargaret5/12/1851
DALYMargaret6/3/1851
DROUIN Ann 21/03/1879
GRIFFITHSMary28/01/1870
HARDY Walter 31/03/1891
HESSION John 01/07/1948
HESSION Patrick 10/11/1893
HESSION Patrick 10/11/1893
HICKFORD John 17/09/1904
HICKFORD John 30/10/1886
KENWRIGHT Elizabeth 19/09/1866
KITCHING Monica May 16/11/1995
LE SUEUR Jean 01/08/1859
LE SUEUR Jean 01/08/1859
LOGANWilliam Arthur17/06/55
MORRIS Louisa 10/01/1930
PINCHON Lydia 22/10/1874
RIVE Eliza 27/02/1887
RIVE Elizabeth 04/01/1889
WALL Martha 04/05/1928
WELLSWilliam13/2/1876
WIGGLESWORTH Ellen 13/07/1963
WILKINSON Phylis 7/03/1984
WILSON Barbara 20/06/1966
MARRIAGES:
ALLENFrancisWILKINSONJane10/8/1839
APPLIN William Thomas RAMSEY Emma Kate 27/12/1900
BATTERBEERobertFARROWMargaret12/02/1859
BEAMAN William EdwardKENWRIGHT Annie Elizabeth 19/10/1898
BEAMAN ThomasMARSH Elizabeth 11/07/1864
BELLERGeorgeWOODRUFFEliza25/04/1864
BELLERRichardPERRYRosetta23/06/1895
BERNCASTEL John Adam Julius MAY Elizabeth 4/4/1860
BERNCASTEL Ernest Frances Edgar TOOLEY Louisa Minnie 4/6/1915
BOGGISSJamesGLOVEREsther20/9/1874
BOND William TILLING Dinah 04/01/1849
BROWN Colin Stuart HOLE Ruby Jennifer 30/11/1963
BUGGINS Thomas CLATWORTHY Harriet 03/01/1841
CARDWELLCharles HenryBATTERBEE Ella Bertha03/09/1899
CHAMBERSFrederickWHITEJane21/07/1892
CHAPMAN George Stedman HASSELL Sarah Maria 23/8/1869
CHAPMAN George STEDMAN Mary 3/9/1838
COE RichardSTAFFORD Ann 15/06/1845
COLCLOUGHHenry ThomasFIELDEREmily05/10/1879
COMLEY Charles CAREY Elizabeth Sarah 16/09/1890
DINGLE John PINNEY Margaret 10/06/1849
DINGLE George Alfred Percy LE SUEUR Emma Charlotte 11/10/1928
ECCLES John Thomas HAWORTH Mary 25/12/1897
EDWARDSJohnJONESElizabeth25/01/1887
FLEMING William Henry EBBAGE Florence Emmie 08/12/1906
FROST James PRYKE Emma Susannah 03/04/1845
GILLHAM Richard VENSON Elizabeth 18/11/1847
GILLHAM Richard VINCENT Elizabeth 18/11/1847
GLOVERFrederickCROWEsther21/8/1870
GREENJosephSMITHElizabeth19/5/1850
HESSION John TAYLOR Harriet 27/02/1897
HESSION John ECCLES Edith 31/03/1934
HICKFORD John PRATT Matilda 10/09/1840
HODGESSamuelCRAVENJane2/12/1839
HODGESSamuelTAINTONElizabeth5/9/1840
HOLE Bertie John COMLEY Annie Lilian 19/02/1914
HOLE Charles Edwin RAMSEY Priscilla 10/04/1939
HOLE Edwin Charles VEALE Emily 11/08/1886
KENWRIGHT EdwardCOE Jane 26/08/1868
KENWRIGHT JohnHILL Elizabeth 05/12/1866
KENWRIGHT JohnTRAVIS Elizabeth 09/02/1868
KITCHING Reuben Hornby WILSON Monica May 20/09/1939
KITCHING Robert William LAWRANCE Ellen 28/11/1908
KITCHING Stephen STEPHENSON Martha Jane 02/06/1883
LE PIEZ Josue RIVE Eliza 30/04/1861
LE SUEUR Jean BINET (NEE RIVE) Elizabeth 22/04/1844
LE SUEUR Charles John VALLOIS Mary Jane 07/10/1888
LINCOLN Henry William TOON Hannah 23/09/1895
LYFORDGeorge CharlesFLAWNEliza3/6/1873
LYNNPatrick or PadraigMCAULEYMaryabt 1862
MILNEAlbert EdmundBATTERBEEEllen Margaret01/12/1886
MOODYFrancis FrederickGYEAlice Jane04/06/1877
OAKLEYJosephSTEPHENSAnn24/8/1846
PALMERThomasNICHOLSEliza21/5/1861
PARSONSThomasHOLMANMercy28/07/1874
PERRYCharlesJARVISAdelaide08/05/1859
PINCHON DavidTREBLE Elizabeth Hannah 07/07/1860
PINCHON Ernest TrebleWATTS Margaret Ann 18/08/1896
PITTHenryCLUBBSarah24/2/1858
POPEWalter CharlesBLACKMANElizabeth10/16/15
RAMSEY Walter FROST Kate 04/10/1879
RAMSEY Walter James GILLHAM Florence 23/12/1912
RAMSEY John KNIGHTS Phoebe 23/11/1841
RAYNERWilliamGORDONElizabeth12/26/14
TOOLEY Matthew Ernest CHAPMAN Sarah Maria 20/12/1891
WALKERGeorgeISTEDEmily03/01/05
WALKERCharles HenryWOODMary Ann09/13/07
WATERS John LAFFOLEY Elizabeth 30/10/1852
WIGGLESWORTH Sydney Alan KITCHING Ellen 21/11/1921
BAPTISMS:
DINGLE John Robert 19/07/1829
DINGLE Edmund 26/03/1842
PENNEY Margaret Ellis 05/08/1832
VALLOIS Mary Jane 18/01/1866
BURIALS:
HODGE Mary 24/07/1828
HURLEY John 18/08/1836
KITCHING Monica May 23/11/1995
PAGE Christiana 27/06/1828
RADFORD Robert 09/10/1936
RADFORD Frances 06/07/1828
RAWLINS Anne Short 31/08/1828
SANFORD Mary 12/06/1836
SHORT Jane 11/09/1836
SKINNER John 10/10/1836
WREFORD Peter 27/07/1828
PARISH MARRIAGES:
PENNEY Richard SMALLACOMBE Jane 31/10/1831
Best Regards
Graham Pitt:)
The BDM Exchange
<http://web.ukonline.co.uk/graham.pitt/bdm/>;
Computers For Charity
<http://web.ukonline.co.uk/graham.pitt/cfc/>;
Recycling Computers for use in the Community
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X-Message: #2
Date: 9 Oct 1997 06:26:50 GMT
From: "Ekka" <>
To:
Message-ID: <01bcd3d1$9c619e00$>
Subject: Re: What does Occupier mean on Birth Cert.
Charles Ellson <> wrote in article
<>...
> In article <>
writes:
>
> > On a birth certificate that I just received from Edinburgh, Sct. it
> > states under the signature and qualification of informant:
> > Father and Occupier
> > The mother's name & father's name are different. I assume that they
> > were not married. Would Occupier mean a boarder in her home?
> >
>
> The 1874 Births and Deaths Registration Act made the regestering of a
birth the responsibility of the parents rather than the local registrar as
it had been from 1837.
If the parents were unable to do this the responsibility then fell to the
occupier of the house where the child was born. This could be extended to
the person having charge of the child, which inferred that hospitals could
be covered by the Act.
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X-Message: #3
Date: 9 Oct 1997 08:13:37 GMT
From: "Jenny" <>
To:
Message-ID: <01bcd48b$76529ec0$>
Subject: Help
Looking for any information on parents or siblings of Daniel FRENCH,
Oxfordshire, Eng. Daniel married Harriett BEAM(E)S about 1854-6 in England.
He migrated to Tasmania, arrival date was 27 Jan 1857. He was aged 24years
and was a farm labourer, she was aged 23 years and was a glover ?. That's
all the information I have, sorry.
Hoping someone out there can help me.
My e-mail address is,
Thanks
Jenny
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X-Message: #4
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:00:33 +0100
From: Barney Tyrwhitt-Drake <>
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: Mind Your P's & Q's?
In article <>,
writes
>A few weeks back there was some online question about the definition
>and/or origin of the phrase "mind your p's and q's" . It took awhile,
>but I finally located an old piece of poetry written long ago. It
>appears that the phrase started in the printing business many years
>ago when type was set by hand. The poem is called "Warnings to The
>Devil" and is by an anonymous writer. The first verse goes -
>Be careful of the type you chose,
> You must always mind your p's and q's!
>Nuts and mutts fill out your stick.
> Keep your eye on the nick!
>An 87 year old typesetter explained to me that the lower case p and q
>are very easily mixed - hence the warning.
>
The OED has 1779 as its earliest date of a quotation using this phrase,
so your origin is very possible. It goes on to say:
"Note. As to the origin of these nothing has been ascertained. An
obvious suggestion is that b. (for which the evidence does not go far
back) refers to the difficulty which a child beginning to read has in
distinguishing the tailed letters p and q; others have conjectured some
cryptic reference to the words peculiar, or particular."
I don't think we'll ever know for sure. :)
--
Barney Tyrwhitt-Drake
Drake Software web site at http://www.tdrake.demon.co.uk/
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X-Message: #5
Date: 9 Oct 1997 02:45:45 -0700
From: (Joan)
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Cyber Cafes
Does anyone out there know the Portsmouth/Southsea/Fareham area? I will be
there at the end of November and am hoping I will be able to find a Cyber
Cafe. Can anyone advise where I could find one?
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Joan in Colorado
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X-Message: #6
Date: 9 Oct 1997 10:50:54 GMT
From: "Melinda Meredith" <>
To:
Message-ID: <01bcd4a1$90651ca0$>
Subject: S.S. Saturnia - 1923 passenger list
Does anyone happen to have access to the passenger list for the Saturnia ?
My grandfather came to Canada in March of 1923, and landed in Halifax, Nova
Scotia, from where in Scotland, I do not know.
Any suggestions or direction would be much appreciated.
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X-Message: #7
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 08:28:50 +0100
From: Lesley Robertson <>
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Born in France, returned to Scotland
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Catherine Campbell was born about 1815 "in France" (according to the
1851 census). Family legend says that she was "born on the battlefield
of Waterloo" (now in Belgium, but borders were different then). She
married in Caputh, Scotland, but we don't know WHEN her family returned
from France (or if they really were with the army). Does anyone know
whether records were kept of births among the British forces on the
Continent at this time (perhaps equivalent to modern Consular returns)?
If so, where would they be?
Lesley Robertson
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X-Message: #8
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 08:21:50 +0100
From: Lesley Robertson <>
To:
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Subject: Re: Can anyone suggest
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Grandad wrote:
> a good program for building family trees.
>
> --
> Grandad
I like Family Tree Maker (a very vocal group seem to make a career out
of hating it). Brother's Keeper and reunion also have their fans -
different packages suit different people. I suggest that you try out the
various demos - most of them have their own sites now, and see what
suits you.
Lesley Robertson
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X-Message: #9
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 08:19:36 +0100
From: Lesley Robertson <>
To:
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Subject: Re: Are You a Royal?
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MacKay wrote:
> And no, I really don't want the book about Diana any more than I
> wanted
> the video about Diana that I was offered at the mall this morning.
> These amount to nothing more than expensive tabloids. I didn't buy
> them
> when she was alive and I wont buy them now. Anyone who buys these are
>
> encouraging the same behavior from the press that contributed to her
> death.
I guess the follow-up to ambulance-chaser is hearse-chaser?? The advert
was spammed across all the groups - a second reason not to participate!
Lesley Robertson
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X-Message: #10
Date: 9 Oct 1997 04:27:55 -0700
From: (A.G. Mitchell)
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: Can anyone suggest
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At 08:21 AM 10/9/97 +0100, you wrote:My vote go's to FTM
as well.
>Grandad wrote:
>
>> a good program for building family trees.
>>
>> --
>> Grandad
>
>I like Family Tree Maker (a very vocal group seem to make a career out
>of hating it). Brother's Keeper and reunion also have their fans -
>different packages suit different people. I suggest that you try out the
>various demos - most of them have their own sites now, and see what
>suits you.
>Lesley Robertson
>
>
>
>
Welcome to NOVA SCOTIA CANADA!
http://www.cnet.windsor.ns.ca/~as432/profile0.htm
Please do not forget to sign my Guestbook!
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X-Message: #11
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 12:20:44 GMT
From: john[no_spam]@[no_spam]vetchfield.win-uk.net (John E Wynn)
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: Email address
In article <>, John Shilling ()
writes:
>We are searching for an email address for the Automobile
>Association, Fanum House, Basingstoke, Hampshire. They publish a road
>atlas for Britain. We have been unable to find a distributor for this
>atlas here in Ontario. We would like to contact them for information
>regarding availability here. We would prefer to use email for expediency.
The AA have a site at: http://www.theaa.co.uk/theaa
John Wynn
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X-Message: #12
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 08:42:59 -0300
From: MacKay <>
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: Mind Your P's & Q's?
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wrote:
>
> A few weeks back there was some online question about the definition
> and/or origin of the phrase "mind your p's and q's" . It took awhile,
> but I finally located an old piece of poetry written long ago. It
> appears that the phrase started in the printing business many years
> ago when type was set by hand. The poem is called "Warnings to The
> Devil" and is by an anonymous writer. The first verse goes -
> Be careful of the type you chose,
> You must always mind your p's and q's!
> Nuts and mutts fill out your stick.
> Keep your eye on the nick!
> An 87 year old typesetter explained to me that the lower case p and q
> are very easily mixed - hence the warning.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ron
When I was little I remember thinking it meant "mind your Please and
than"kwews", or put simply, be polite. It wasn't until my kids were in
kindergarten learning to write, that I found myself telling them to Mind
your p's and q's.
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Ann MacKay Address in header is Anti-Spam
Wolfville, NS Please Reply to
Canada ~~~~~~~~
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X-Message: #13
Date: 9 Oct 1997 04:46:59 -0700
From: (Stephen Edwards)
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Indexing of passenger list for NY ships 1850's
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Hi,
A couple of years ago I was in the National Archives in Washington DC
searching for someone who had emigrated from the UK to New York State. From
Census records it appears that he arrived in about 1857. However, when I
was making my search, the passenger lists covering that period had not been
indexed. Does anyone know whether ships passenger lists for this period
have since been indexed?
Regards
Steve
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Stephen J. Edwards Glabrescent in the Cotswold Hills, England
Researching in Devon: TOUT, HOLE,
in Wales & worldwide: BODYCOMBE,
in Wiltshire DRAPER, BATHE, RUDLER
in Bristol EDWARDS, Austin RICKETTS c 1901
in Yorkshire THORNTON, BLACKBURN
in England and New York State: John PINKNEY and Hannah DALE
(both born in England, but where?)
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X-Message: #14
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 08:48:45 -0300
From: MacKay <>
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: Passengers from Britain to Canada
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Anniebe222 wrote:
>
>
> Hi. I was wondering if perhaps you may have other passenger lists for this
> vessel "The Lively", particularily for the year 1840 when I believe my irish
> ancestors took passage onboard this vessel bound for Quebec. Also, any
> general information you may have on the ship itself I would appreciate as
> well. Thank you! Annie
I am also interested in passengers of "The Alexander" which sailed from
Greenock (I think) in 1820 on its way to Quebec. This ship was owned
and I believe Captained by James Henry, of Bo'ness, who is likely my 5th
great grandfather.
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Ann MacKay Address in header is Anti-Spam
Wolfville, NS Please Reply to
Canada ~~~~~~~~
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X-Message: #15
Date: 9 Oct 1997 11:38:48 GMT
From: "Grandad" <?@?.?>
To:
Message-ID: <01bcd4a8$04c45060$>
Subject: Re: Can anyone suggest
Thanks for your help.
--
Grandad
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X-Message: #16
Date: 9 Oct 1997 05:14:26 -0700
From:
To:
Message-ID: <>
Subject: MCLAREN/DUNBAR
Anyone doing MCLAREN or DUNBAR research?
I have the following listed and am trying to determine if there is a blood
relationship between them
Elizabeth McLaren DUNBAR born abt 1838 Glasgow
Catherine McLaren DUNBAR born abt 1808 Stanley, Perthshire.
Elizabeth McLaren DUNBAR born abt 1847 Glasgow, widow
Catherine appears in Barony parish LKS in the 1881 census married to Robert
DUNBAR (born ENG, a tailor ), and I am attempting to find family connections
for these two.
If anyone can offer leads or connections I would be most grateful. I do not
have
access to earlier census data at present.
Are surnamed-indexed microfische available for earlier censuses? If so, who
sells them?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Pat(rick) Dunbar in bright but windy West Wales (no rain at present!)
Organiser, Dunbar Family Society
Researching Dunbar - anywhere, anytime
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X-Message: #17
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 13:52:52 +0100
From: Anthony Lucken <>
To:
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Subject: LUCKEN
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Looking for ancestors of my great-grandfather Edwin Charles Lucken, died
Portsmouth 1910, married to Lucy Louise, maiden name unknown
--
E. A. C. Lucken
Departement de Chimie Physique
Universit de Genve
Sciences II, 30 quai Ernest-Ansermet
1211 Genve 4, Switzerland
Tel 0041 22 702 6546
Fax 0041 22 702 6103
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X-Message: #18
Date: 9 Oct 1997 05:25:32 -0700
From:
To:
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Subject: Edwards/Coles
Does anyone have the ancestry of Edward Edwards b.abt.1537 d.1592. He m.
Ursula Coles. Would also appreciate any info on Ursula.
Thanks,
Bill Meacham
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Date: 9 Oct 1997 05:37:25 -0700
From: (Penny Gerstein)
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Subject: Hamerden, Hastingford, Cinderhill Farms, Sussex
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Does anyone have any knowledge of the above three farms. My WHITE
ancestors seem to have been at Hamerden in Ticehurst, Sussex, with a
William around 1770, Stephen around 1800, John in the 1851 census. Richard
WHITE is listed at Hastingford Farm, Mayfield, in the Register of Voters,
June 1843 and all his children were born there but in the 1851 census he
is listed as a farmer living at Foxhole. Is this another farm? Cinderhill
Farm was the residence of my TOMPSETT ancestors. Would these have been
tenancies or did they own the farms. Although I have found a few of these
WHITES in the Ticehurst Parish Church records, Stonegate Church is also
mentioned a couple of times, as is Hadlowdown, Buxted. Are these in the
vicinity?
One last question .. I could find no record of my grandfather (Percival
Walter Shatford WHITE, b. 1875) nor his family in the Wadhurst Church
records, though he lived across the street from the church and used to do
odd jobs for the vicar. He seemed to think his mother was a Plymouth
Bretheren, though didn't remember too much in the way of a religious
upbringing other than at the church across the way. Where would I look for
Plymouth Bretheren baptisms? Were they "big" in that area around that
time? Thanks.
Penny
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Penny Gerstein 28A Cannon Road
Penny Ha'Penny Wilton, CT 06897
203-762-2233 800-762-7775
http://www.pennyhapenny.com
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X-Message: #20
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 05:39:10 -0700
From: Joe Hall <>
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Subject: Looking for info on Hall
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I am looking for information on my GGrandfather, His name was Stanley H.
Hall, and was born in London on 1-12-1892, I believe he had some
brothers. I know he came to Canada, and then Detroit. What I am really
looking for is info on his parents. Any information would be
appreciated.
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X-Message: #21
Date: 9 Oct 1997 13:37:08 +0100
From: (Alan J Holmes)
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Subject: Re: Subscribe
In article <01bcd4a7$1b4eb060$>,
Steve <?@?.?> wrote:
>subscribe
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What a f*****g idiot!
Alan
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X-Message: #22
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:35:03 +0100
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Subject: Roots to the past "Wortels naar het verleden" Genealogical and historical links
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