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------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain GENBRIT-D DigestVolume 97 : Issue 159 Today's Topics: #1 Kirk --Ohio, Kentucky 1800's [Jane Giannetto <] #2 WILLIAM JAMES PICKETT CAMPBELL [] #3 WOOD, William [] #4 Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry ["Mike Young" <>] #5 1820 Army Pension Widows surnames [ (Ailsa Herb] #6 BOWRINGS in Newfoundland [ (D] #7 Re: DUKE OF ARGYLE [Peter Mackay <] #8 BEZER [ (John Baskott)] #9 Expensive cookie recipe [ (C Raymond LaFev] #10 COULTER/COLTHERD, Hawick, SCOT>Del [ (C Raymond LaFev] #11 Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe [ (Darrell Jones)] #12 Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe (URBAN [ (Linda Cas] #13 Evans-Morse/Evans-Nance - Llange [ (Taffy)] #14 Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe (URBAN [ (Edgar A. How] #15 Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe [ (Gary J. R] #16 JAMES Charles; PA,USA; 1910- ["Linda" <>] #17 SMITH Francis; PA,USA; 1880- ["Linda" <>] #18 Old Bailey Trial records, 1789 [ (Joe Slave] Administrivia: This GENBRIT digest has been distributed by RootsWeb. RootsWeb's home page is at http://www.rootsweb.com/. If you would like to unsubscribe from GENBRIT, send to the message "unsubscribe" (without the quotation marks). Don't include your address, your signature, or anything in the message body except that one word. (Do this also if you want to shift to NOMAIL mode, then just resubscribe later.) If you would like to have a message included in the GENBRIT digest, send it to . ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #1 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 15:50:49 -0400 From: Jane Giannetto <> To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Kirk --Ohio, Kentucky 1800's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looking for information on Leander Kirk of Fleming County Kentucky and Nancy Dunaway of Scioto County Ohio married 11-10-1860. We would like to know where they were married and who their parents were. Any information or just a nuge in the right direction would be helpful ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #2 Date: 10 Oct 1997 12:55:25 -0700 From: To: Message-ID: <> Subject: WILLIAM JAMES PICKETT CAMPBELL Hi. Everybody. My cousin is looking for her father. WILLIAM JAMES PICKETT CAMPBELL. He was born in the Glasgow area on the 7 June 1945. He married GILLIAN LORRAINE GIBBONS. in London c. 1964. Sachelle his daughter would love to see him. She has never met him. He could be back in Scotland. Has he any family. Info. would be appreciated. Jim Gibbons London. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #3 Date: 10 Oct 1997 13:27:37 -0700 From: To: Message-ID: <> Subject: WOOD, William Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can some kind soul help me with a look up in the 1841 census.I am trying to find more information about these two: William WOOD, who might be the son of Richard and Helen WOOD. And perhaps tell me what the meaning is of this information I received: Droitwich, Pigot, 860, 1830. \|/ \|/ \|/ \|/ V V V V Wood, William Droitwich WOR Pigot 860 1830 Tavern Keeper, "Old Cock" Wood, William Worcester WOR Pigot 890 1830 Timber Merchant and Brickmaker, Tybridge place. I am trying to locate my the parish where my Greatgrandfather was born which I think was St. Albins. Reagrds, Robert Wood In California ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #4 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 21:47:26 GMT From: "Mike Young" <> To: Message-ID: <K9GfQ.31$> Subject: Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry The Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry site has moved to a new address and has many updates. Please check it out at Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry - http://www.digiserve.com/msyoung/dcli.htm Thanks. -- Mike Young Family Tree - http://www.digiserve.com/msyoung ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #5 Date: 10 Oct 1997 15:05:25 -0700 From: (Ailsa Herbert) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: 1820 Army Pension Widows surnames Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Gens Anyone expert on Militia Widows and under what surname they were paid a pension? Suddenly after years of researching my widow O'BRIEN (Royal Meath Militia)- name from Colonial Office minutes - suddenly I found Inward Despatches of 1834, from Dublin Castle stating that the pension had been paid since 1820 to Adelaide CONNOR now CAMPBELL (married James CAMPBELL Circ 1820)! How could 'they' get the name so VERY wrong? Another name attached to her, when her last child was born in Tasmania, was VANSEK! What a mess - any suggestions would be gratefully received and promptly answered! Ailsa in Kingston, Tas at ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #6 Date: 10 Oct 1997 15:28:46 -0700 From: (Deborah Jeans) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: BOWRINGS in Newfoundland Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Whoever posted the request about the BOWRING family could they contact me directly as I might be able to help. For some reason I did not receive the entire digest and the last few messages were cut off. Debbie Jeans, CG(C) Newfoundland, Canada ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #7 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 23:55:18 +0100 From: Peter Mackay <> To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: DUKE OF ARGYLE In article <>, Beryl Bass <> writes >One of my ancestors was a son of the Duke of Argyle. My grandfather used to >have a book written in by the eldest son of each generation telling about >the family (which has been destroyed by the present generation) and which my >grandfather, in Stockport, used to read to me as a child. I remember that >someone was the son of the Duke and had some kind of disagreement with his >father and went to live in Ireland (they moved to England a few generations >later). I remember him as being eldest son but my cousin remembers him as >third son. > >I imagine all of this took place in the 17th or 18th centuries. Does anyone >have a list of the children of the Dukes of Argyle from that time period and >information as to the name of one which might have left home etc? > >Beryl Bass > > There is an archivist at Inveraray Castle which is the seat of the Dukes of Argyle. There is also a book titled 'INVERARAY and the Dukes of Argyle' by Ian G. Lindsay and Mary Cosh. In the rear of this book is the full family tree of the present Duke. I do not have the full address of the above archivist but the Castle is in Inveraray, Scotland. -- Peter Mackay http://www.macka.demon.co.uk ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #8 Date: 10 Oct 1997 16:09:01 -0700 From: (John Baskott) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: BEZER Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi from down under, Is anyone researching the BEZER (BEAZER) name? Possibly from Wiltshire, although anywhere will do! Regards John B. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #9 Date: 10 Oct 1997 16:10:21 -0700 From: (C Raymond LaFever) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Expensive cookie recipe I was a bit stunned to find this on this listserv. My comments 1) I have the same identical recipe with a totally different story involving Mrs. Fields and 2) it is a very good recipe despite the bogus stories around it. Ray LaFever Manor Farm Cottage 22 Old Route 9 Staatsburg, NY 12580 USA ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #10 Date: 10 Oct 1997 16:10:56 -0700 From: (C Raymond LaFever) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: COULTER/COLTHERD, Hawick, SCOT>Delaware County, NY I am working on the family of Francis COULTER (1771-1846) and Nancy GLENDENNING (d 1873). His parents are believed to have been WALTER COULTER (COLTHERD) and ELIZABETH RAY. Francis and Nancy are believed to have come from Hawick, Scotland. They settled in the Town of Bovina in the early 1800s. I am descended from their daughter Isabella COULTER (1798-1879), who married John Armstrong. Their other children were Elizabeth (b 1800), Agnes (b 1802), Walter (b 1804), Mary (b 1806), James (b 1808), Ellen (b 1810), David (b 1813) and William (b 1817). The Coulter name was once very common in Bovina. I have had no luck tracing the family in Scotland (I visited Hawick last September) and wondered if anyone had more definitive information about this couple. Thanks for any suggestions, etc. Ray LaFever Manor Farm Cottage 22 Old Route 9 Staatsburg, NY 12580 USA ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #11 Date: 10 Oct 1997 16:24:24 -0700 From: (Darrell Jones) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BCD5A9.4844F7C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BCD5A9.4844F7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sysops: WHY DON'T YOU SYSOPS LOCK THIS PERSON OUT. I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS JUNK/SPAMMING. -eddie: sysop, SW_VA-L, & NECKAR-L "And he shall plant in the hearts of the children the promises made to the fathers, and the hearts of the children shall turn to their fathers." In my own defense, I am not SPAMMING, I don't have any of you (except the one that sent it to me) on MY MAILING LIST. EXCUUUUUSSSSEEE me for trying to add a simple response to something that was sent to me!!! I truly understand your fear of a virus or something, I have that same fear too. So again, I greatly apologize for interrupting your day. Peggy Jones ------=_NextPart_000_01BCD5A9.4844F7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#A6CAF0">Sysops: 	WHY = DON'T YOU SYSOPS LOCK THIS PERSON OUT.  I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR = THIS JUNK/SPAMMING. -eddie:  sysop, SW_VA-L, & = NECKAR-L "And he shall plant in the hearts of the children = the promises made to the fathers, and the hearts of the children = shall turn to their fathers." In = my own defense, I am not SPAMMING, I don't have any of you (except the = one that sent it to me) on MY MAILING LIST.  EXCUUUUUSSSSEEE me for = trying to add a simple response to something that was sent to = me!!! I truly understand your fear of a virus or something, I = have that same fear too. So again, I greatly apologize for = interrupting your day.   Peggy Jones </body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_01BCD5A9.4844F7C0-- ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #12 Date: 10 Oct 1997 16:34:19 -0700 From: (Linda Cassidy Lewis) To: Message-ID: <01bcd5d4$c8e0f3e0$> Subject: Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe (URBAN MYTH) Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friends this is an urban myth.... anyone interested in the story about this Neiman Marcus cookie fraud can go to http://www.exit109.com/~mstevens/250cooki.html to read about it. -----Original Message----- From: Brenda Hebert <> To: <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <> Cc: <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <>; <> Date: Friday, October 10, 1997 6:17 AM Subject: Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe >Denn Bottorff wrote: >> >> Just in time for Christmas!! >> >> I received this from a friend who asked me to pass it along to everyone I >> >knew who had an E-mail address, what a better way to send it. >> >> >Subject: Cookie Recipe >> > >> >Neiman-Marcus Cookies >> > [original letter deleted] ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #13 Date: 11 Oct 1997 00:19:49 GMT From: (Taffy) To: Message-ID: <61mgn5$djc$1@usenet89.supernews.com> Subject: Evans-Morse/Evans-Nance - Llangeler, Carm Hi, I am hoping some one in the group will recognize these Evans lines. A person with the last name Evans-Morse entered his family in the IGI before 1936, However, there was no more information given, ie. where to contact him, etc.. Any help or tips on how I can follow up on this would be greatly appreciated. Could you possibley send me an e:mail as I do not get into the group each day. Regards Sue Prince George, B.C. Canada Researching: Evans, Jones, Williams, Sullivan, (O')Connor, Buckley, Lloyd, Howell(s), Phillips, Thomas, Glasson ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #14 Date: 10 Oct 1997 17:47:33 -0700 From: (Edgar A. Howard) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe (URBAN MYTH) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sysop: Would you Sysops PUT AN END TO THIS!!!!!!!!!! -sysop NECKAR-L; & SW_VA-L Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:39:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve and Lila White <> Reply-to: Organization: The White House To: Linda Cassidy Lewis <> Cc: Brenda Hebert <>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , Subject: Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe (URBAN MYTH) Linda Cassidy Lewis wrote: > > Friends this is an urban myth.... anyone interested in the story about this > Neiman Marcus cookie fraud can go to > http://www.exit109.com/~mstevens/250cooki.html to read about it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brenda Hebert <> > To: <>; > <>; <>; > <>; > <>; > <>; <>; > <> > Cc: <>; > <>; <>; > <>; <>; > <>; > <>; <>; > <>; > <>; <>; > <>; > <>; <>; > <>; > <>; > <>; > <>; > <>; <>; > <>; > <>; <>; > <>; > <>; <>; > <>; > <>; > <>; > <>; <>; > <>; > <>; <>; > <>; > <>; > <>; > <>; > <>; <>; > <>; > <>; > <> > Date: Friday, October 10, 1997 6:17 AM > Subject: Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe > > >Denn Bottorff wrote: > >> > >> Just in time for Christmas!! > >> > >> I received this from a friend who asked me to pass it along to everyone I > >> >knew who had an E-mail address, what a better way to send it. > >> > >> >Subject: Cookie Recipe > >> > > >> >Neiman-Marcus Cookies > >> > > [original letter deleted] Enough with the bellyaching!!! Getting one cookie recipe was not a waste of my time. I like cookies. If you don't want the recipe...DELETE IT!!!! What I find annoying is the other 50 e-mails complaining about it. "And he shall plant in the hearts of the children the promises made to the fathers, and the hearts of the children shall turn to their fathers." ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #15 Date: 10 Oct 1997 17:58:38 -0700 From: (Gary J. Rosenmeier) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Brenda, for passing-on the expensive and exclusive N-M cookie recipe and for the funny, yet not-so funny story. Revenge, sometimes, can be "sweet!" I'll try to help out and e-mail the recipe to one of my son's at college and to my son and daughter-in-law overseas. Gary J. Rosenmeier, M.D. ---------- > From: Brenda Hebert <> > To: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; > Cc: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; > Subject: Re: Expensive Cookie Recipe > Date: Friday, October 10, 1997 7:01 AM > > Denn Bottorff wrote: > > > > Just in time for Christmas!! > > > > I received this from a friend who asked me to pass it along to everyone I > > >knew who had an E-mail address, what a better way to send it. > > > > >Subject: Cookie Recipe > > > > > >Neiman-Marcus Cookies > > > > > >THIS IS TRUE----PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT AND PLEASE SEND THIS > > >TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON YOU KNOW WHO HAS AN E-MAIL ADDRESS....THIS IS REALLY > > >TERRIFIC. > > > > > >My daughter & I had just finished a salad at Neiman-Marcus Cafe in Dallas & > > >decided to have a small dessert. Because both of us are such cookie lovers, > > >we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus Cookie." > > > > > >{EDITORIAL COMMENT: Neiman's is a VERY EXPENSIVE department store in the > > >States}. > > >It was so excellent that I asked if they would give me the recipe and the > > >waitress said with a small frown, "I'm afraid not." > > > > > >Well, I said, would you let me buy the recipe? With a cute smile, she said, > > >"Yes." I asked how much, and she responded, "Only two fifty, it's a great > > >deal!" I said with approval, just add it to my tab. > > > > > >Thirty days later, I received my VISA statement from Neiman-Marcus and > > >it was $285.00. I looked again and I remembered I had only spent $9.95 for > > >two salads and about $20.00 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom of the > > >statement, it said, "Cookie Recipe - $250.00" > > > > > >That's outrageous!! > > > > > >I called Neiman's Accounting Dept. and told them the waitress said it was > > >"two-fifty," which clearly does not mean "two hundred and fifty dollars" by > > >any *POSSIBLE* interpretation of the phrase. > > > > > >Neiman-Marcus refused to budge. They would not refund my money, because > > >according to them, "What the waitress told you is not our problem. You have > > >already seen the recipe - we absolutely will not refund your money at this > > >point." I explained to her the criminal statutes which govern fraud in > > >Texas, I threatened to refer them to the Better Business Bureau and the > > >State's Attorney General for engaging in fraud. I was basically told, "Do > > >what you want, we don't give a crap, and we're not refunding your money." I > > >waited, thinking of how I could get even, or even try and get any of my money > > >back. I just said, "Okay, you folks got my $250, and > > >now I'm going to have $250.00 worth of fun." I told her that I was going to > > >see to it that every cookie lover in the United States with an e-mail account > > >has a $250.00 cookie recipe from Neiman-Marcus...for free. > > > > > >She replied, "I wish you wouldn't do this." I said, "Well, you should have > > >thought of that before you ripped me off," and slammed down the phone on her. > > > > > >So here it is!!! Please, please, please pass it on to everyone you can > > >possibly think of. I paid $250 for this...I don't want Neiman-Marcus to ever > > >get another penny off of this recipe.... > > > > > >(Recipe may be halved) > > > > > >2 cups butter > > >4 cups flour > > >2 tsp. soda > > >2 cups sugar > > >5 cups blended oatmeal (Measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a fine > > >powder.) > > >24 oz. chocolate chips > > >2 cups brown sugar > > >1 tsp. salt > > >1- 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated) > > >4 eggs > > >2 tsp. baking powder > > >2 tsp. vanilla > > >3 cups chopped nuts (your choice) > > > > > >Cream the butter and both sugars. Add eggs and vanilla; mix together with > > >flour, oatmeal, salt, baking powder, and soda. Add chocolate chips, Hershey > > >Bar and nuts. Roll into balls and place two inches apart on a cookie sheet. > > > > > >Bake for 10 minutes at 375 degrees. Makes 112 cookies. > > > > > >Have fun!!! > > > > > >This is not a joke --- this is a true story. Ride free citizens! > > > > ______________________________ ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #16 Date: 11 Oct 1997 00:59:23 GMT From: "Linda" <> To: Message-ID: <61mj1b$> Subject: JAMES Charles; PA,USA; 1910- JAMES Charles; PA,USA; 1910- JAMES Christian; PA, USA; 1895- JAMES Charles; PA, USA; 1910- Christian James' son was: Charles H. James & Lena Meyers Children Birthday Death Mary James ( )Oct. 13, 1912 Regina A. James (Zimmerman)Nov. 13,1913Oct. 12, 19 Helen Charles H. James a.k.a BuckieApril 8, 1915 Frederick (baby)Sept. 30, 1920 Edward (baby)Sept. 12, 1927 Notes 1) Charles H. James and Lena (Sena) Meyers were married on October 5, 1910. (see marriage certificate) Charles H. Sr. was born on Sept. 3, 1885 in Philadelphia. Lena was born on February 2, 1887. Lena Meyers James died on March 11, 1943. "Linda" <> ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #17 Date: 11 Oct 1997 01:02:23 GMT From: "Linda" <> To: Message-ID: <61mj6v$> Subject: SMITH Francis; PA,USA; 1880- SMITH Francis; PA,USA; 1880- SMITH Benjamin; PA, USA; 1879- Benjamin Smith & Mary (Bauer)Smith Children Birthday ___ Death Francis B.J. aka BenjaminOct. 16, 1879 William Aug 29, Nov 21 GeorgeOct 14, 1870Sept 22, 1940 William H.May 29, 1872Aug 28, 1904 MaryFeb 14, 1874 John July 13, 1876 Emma & Ann (twins)Aug 8, 1878Nov. 7 & 11, 1878 LaefeyetteMay 25, 1881Oct 11 or 20, 1920 Ida Mae (Groves)Nov 17, 1883 "Linda" <> ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #18 Date: 10 Oct 1997 18:31:07 -0700 From: (Joe Slaven) To: Message-ID: <> Subject: Old Bailey Trial records, 1789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In the Home Office (England) there are a series of records called ' Criminal Registers, Series I' [HO 26] and 'Series II', in which are recorded names of all persons charged with indictable offences, sometimes giving personal information about the prisoners. Unfortunately they commence in 1791. Can anyone please advise on how I can find out the crime of Daniel BRYAN/BRIEN who was tried and sentenced at the Old Bailey, Middlesex on 9 Sep 1789 Please reply direct to <> Joe Slaven Townsville, Australia