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From: Chris Newall <>
Subject: Re: Cecilia Cray
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:48:24 +0100
Roy Stockdill <> writes
>In fact, I discovered there is a website dedicated to the Krays'
>memory at www.thekrays.co.uk
>This tells us what wonderful people they really were and how terribly
>they were treated by the state and successive Home Secretaries. It is
>quite amusing to read the "tributes" from some of their fans, mostly,
>judging by the grammar and spelling, near-illiterate 16-year-olds who
>want to be just like them.
>It's an interesting eye-opener into the glorification of crime and
>villainy. Of course, we all know their loved their dear old mum, were
>polite to women, only ever killed and maimed their own kind and the
>streets of the East End were a safer place when they were ruling
>them...etc, etc, etc.
I spend a few days every summer wandering round the East End researching
my family and almost any elderly [white] permanent resident you meet
claims they knew, went to school with, etc., etc. the Krays. Nobody has
actually said 'They were proper gennleman' yet but a kind of misty-eyed
reminiscence is always there. Perhaps it is an attempt to achieve
recognition by association, but I am always appalled by the way a set of
merciless thugs are recollected.
Chris Newall EMail :
Ealing, London, W5 Website: http://www.rebus.demon.co.uk/