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From: "Roy Stockdill" <>
Subject: Re: Most recent common ancestors
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:02:34 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1137338990.456458.231910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>


> From:

> (A digression: female-female lines are much harder to trace, which is
> odd given that there is never any doubt about who a child's mother is.
> For instance, little is known of Mary Garritt, the wife of Thomas Webb,
> a surveyor in Stow-on-the-Wold in the mid-18th century. Her daughter
> Frances (1775-1862) married Thomas Salisbury, landlord of Marshfield
> House in Yorkshire. Their daughter Anne (1806-1881) married another
> gentry type, Edwyn Burnaby of Baggrave Hall in Leicestershire. Their
> daughter Caroline (1832-1918) married a widowed clergyman who was the
> grandson of a duke. Their daughter Nina (1862-1938) managed to bag an
> earl as her husband. Her daughter Elizabeth (1900-2002) did rather
> better than a mere earl. Her daughter, another Elizabeth, was born in
> 1926 and is still alive; those of you in the UK and Canada will find
> her depicted on certain useful everyday objects, ie money. But her
> direct female line ancestry can be traced back only six generations
> before it is lost in the Gloucestershire middle classes.)>

That is because on that particular line HM Queenie, the mistress of
Buck House, comes from relatively 'umble stock, as you rightly point
out. It seems, however, that some of those very middle class traits
have come through strongly, as shown by the recent story in which a
daily newspaper reporter got a job as a footman serving her breakfast
and reported that she and Philip eat their cornflakes out of plastic
Tupperware bowls.

However, long matrilineal descents can be traced. One CD of European
royalty I have shows that Fergie the Duchess of Pork can be traced
entirely in the direct female line back to the formidable Lady Anne
Clifford, who defied Cromwell and rebuilt Skipton Castle after the
Civil War. And Anthony Camp says in his book Everyone Has Roots that
the matrilineal descent of Queen Victoria can be traced through 28
generations to one Erembourg, wife of Gervase de Chateau-du-loire in
the 11th century.

Roy Stockdill
Web page of the Guild of One-Name Studies:- www.one-name.org
Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History:- www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html

"There are no credentials. They do not even need a medical certificate. They need not
be sound either in mind or body. They only require a certificate of birth - just to
prove they are first of a litter. You would not choose a spaniel on these principles."

David Lloyd George on the aristocracy

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