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From: "Mel Morris" <>
Subject: RE: Most recent common ancestors
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:27:12 -0500
In-Reply-To: <dqk8dk$api$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>


I think you'll find that Inuit is the name given to the people formerly
known as Eskimo i.e. Native Canadians, Artic and Greenland rather than
Iceland and thus not Europeand

See:

http://collections.ic.gc.ca/arctic/inuit/people.htm

Mel Morris

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob [mailto:]
Sent: January 17, 2006 9:18 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Most recent common ancestors

Bronwen,

Do not Inuit's come from Iceland? Is Iceland not a part of Europe?

As for Vikings in America's there is a growing belief due to artefactual
recovery that the Vikings more by error than attempts landed in the US there
are also a few claims that the Romans did but we scotch on that idea.

Yes I knew about the Skull that was believed to be from Early Japanese
tribes.

As for sickle cell I stand corrected.

Yes I was referring to the recent discoveries of Mongolian geno types found
in some native Americans.

Rob

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>I am not sure what you mean by "Mongolian blood" unless you are
>referring to the recent tracing of some Native American genotypes to a
>particular valley in Mongolia. It is also true that the blood types of
>Mongolians and that of Native Americans are completely different. What
>Viking connections? There are many Scandinavian-Native American
>communities today in the Western Subarctic but they do not derive from
>the time of the Vikings.
>
> "Race" is a social construct not a biological fact. When a skull, for
> example, is identified as "Caucasian" or "African" forensically, the
> reference is to which modern gene pool the skull most closely
> resembles rather than to "race" - especially since skulls from
> racially mixed people may favor one genetic line over the other. A
> recent controversy has existed over the "racial" identity of
> "Kennewick Man", found in the state of Washington. Because the skull
> was different from those of modern Native Americans, the press ran off
> with the incorrect assumption that it was "Caucasian" (therefore,
> "white" people were in American earlier than "Indians"). In fact, the
> skull did not resemble that of Modern Europeans, either. It most
> closely resembled the Ainu, aboriginal populations of Japan and
> Sakhalin Island. The Ainu and the "Indians" of the Northwest Coast
> were known to be in contact prior to the arrival of Europeans in the area.
>
> As for sickle cell trait, you are incorrect to restrict the population
> to the Caribbean area. The cell is found among all African groups,
> inside and outside of Africa, and, as well, is found in some American
> Indians, Europeans and South Pacific Islanders. It appears to have
> conferred some degree of protection against malaria originally. Of
> course, it might also appear in people with mixed ancestry and could
> lead to illness if both parents have ancestors from an affected grouo
> and carry the trait. I never suggested that all humans are of a single
> gene pool; a gene pool is more local and accounts for the existence of
> specific traits (think of Huntington's chorea for example). I only
> said that humans are a single species and subspecies - if you believe
> that is untrue, tell me what human subspecies you know about?
>
> How do you figure that Siberia and Alaska were ever European?
> Europeans have had a notoriously difficult time establishing any sort
> of foothold in either place. See my earlier post about the connection
> between Siberian and Alaskan Inuit people and the *ancient* boat
> technology that they used. There is a reason why the umiak, kayak and
> shark-bowed Aleut watercraft are still around and are the still the
> best technology for their areas. The USSR used to complain about how
> it was able to assimilate non-Russian ethnic groups throughout their
> claimed territory except in the Siberian region. It seems that when
> they put up their red tents on the tundra in the middle of an
> aboriginal community, they would get up one morning and find
> themselves alone. They never successfully assimilated these people.
> If you go to the Native villages in Arctic and Subarctic US and
> Canada, you will find that while many foreign objects and ideas have
> been accepted by the Native people, they are generally less
> assimilated than Native people elsewhere in North America. At the time
> the US "bought" Alaska from Russia, neither government would have been
> capable of governing it without the help of aboriginal people. In
> World War II, Inuit women worked in factories to make parkas for the
> US military because it was the most effective outerwear in the
> climate. Just google the genome project - it's not a secret. Most of
> it is dedicated, however, to the medical benefits of mapping the human
> genome and only incidentally to the geographic mapping of traits. -
> Bronwen
>



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