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From: Hugh Watkins <>
Subject: Re: Most recent common ancestors
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:50:34 +0000
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Oh dear more Robism

see http://www.kstrom.net/isk/canada/images/can_arct.htm

olds ite
beyttr
http://www.arcticpeoples.org/

In 1977, via a meeting of represntatives from Inuit, Inuvialut,
Greenlandic, and Siberian Arctic peoples International circumpolar
conference was formed (and later received United Nations recognition)

http://www.gov.nu.ca/Nunavut/

The territory of Nunavut came into being through the Nunavut Land Claims
Agreement. The Government of Nunavut and Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated,
the Inuit birthright organization, are working together to encourage
self-reliance and to protect the rights and benefits of the Inuit of Nunavut

http://www.kstrom.net/isk/canada/images/arctmap.gif
In Alaska, these peoples are known as Inupiaq and Yup'ik (Eskimo); in
Canada and Greenland, they are Inupiaq and Kalaalit (Inuit),
respectively.* Non-Arctic peoples racially and ethnically related to the
Eskimos are the Aleuts.

Hugh W

Mel Morris wrote:
> I think you'll find that Inuit is the name given to the people formerly
> known as Eskimo i.e. Native Canadians, Artic and Greenland rather than
> Iceland and thus not Europeand
>
> See:
>
> http://collections.ic.gc.ca/arctic/inuit/people.htm
>
> Mel Morris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob [mailto:]
> Sent: January 17, 2006 9:18 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Most recent common ancestors
>
> Bronwen,
>
> Do not Inuit's come from Iceland? Is Iceland not a part of Europe?
>
> As for Vikings in America's there is a growing belief due to artefactual
> recovery that the Vikings more by error than attempts landed in the US there
> are also a few claims that the Romans did but we scotch on that idea.
>
> Yes I knew about the Skull that was believed to be from Early Japanese
> tribes.
>
> As for sickle cell I stand corrected.
>
> Yes I was referring to the recent discoveries of Mongolian geno types found
> in some native Americans.
>
> Rob
>
> <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>>I am not sure what you mean by "Mongolian blood" unless you are
>>referring to the recent tracing of some Native American genotypes to a
>>particular valley in Mongolia. It is also true that the blood types of
>>Mongolians and that of Native Americans are completely different. What
>>Viking connections? There are many Scandinavian-Native American
>>communities today in the Western Subarctic but they do not derive from
>>the time of the Vikings.
>>
>>"Race" is a social construct not a biological fact. When a skull, for
>>example, is identified as "Caucasian" or "African" forensically, the
>>reference is to which modern gene pool the skull most closely
>>resembles rather than to "race" - especially since skulls from
>>racially mixed people may favor one genetic line over the other. A
>>recent controversy has existed over the "racial" identity of
>>"Kennewick Man", found in the state of Washington. Because the skull
>>was different from those of modern Native Americans, the press ran off
>>with the incorrect assumption that it was "Caucasian" (therefore,
>>"white" people were in American earlier than "Indians"). In fact, the
>>skull did not resemble that of Modern Europeans, either. It most
>>closely resembled the Ainu, aboriginal populations of Japan and
>>Sakhalin Island. The Ainu and the "Indians" of the Northwest Coast
>>were known to be in contact prior to the arrival of Europeans in the area.
>>
>>As for sickle cell trait, you are incorrect to restrict the population
>>to the Caribbean area. The cell is found among all African groups,
>>inside and outside of Africa, and, as well, is found in some American
>>Indians, Europeans and South Pacific Islanders. It appears to have
>>conferred some degree of protection against malaria originally. Of
>>course, it might also appear in people with mixed ancestry and could
>>lead to illness if both parents have ancestors from an affected grouo
>>and carry the trait. I never suggested that all humans are of a single
>>gene pool; a gene pool is more local and accounts for the existence of
>>specific traits (think of Huntington's chorea for example). I only
>>said that humans are a single species and subspecies - if you believe
>>that is untrue, tell me what human subspecies you know about?
>>
>>How do you figure that Siberia and Alaska were ever European?
>>Europeans have had a notoriously difficult time establishing any sort
>>of foothold in either place. See my earlier post about the connection
>>between Siberian and Alaskan Inuit people and the *ancient* boat
>>technology that they used. There is a reason why the umiak, kayak and
>>shark-bowed Aleut watercraft are still around and are the still the
>>best technology for their areas. The USSR used to complain about how
>>it was able to assimilate non-Russian ethnic groups throughout their
>>claimed territory except in the Siberian region. It seems that when
>>they put up their red tents on the tundra in the middle of an
>>aboriginal community, they would get up one morning and find
>>themselves alone. They never successfully assimilated these people.
>>If you go to the Native villages in Arctic and Subarctic US and
>>Canada, you will find that while many foreign objects and ideas have
>>been accepted by the Native people, they are generally less
>>assimilated than Native people elsewhere in North America. At the time
>>the US "bought" Alaska from Russia, neither government would have been
>>capable of governing it without the help of aboriginal people. In
>>World War II, Inuit women worked in factories to make parkas for the
>>US military because it was the most effective outerwear in the
>>climate. Just google the genome project - it's not a secret. Most of
>>it is dedicated, however, to the medical benefits of mapping the human
>>genome and only incidentally to the geographic mapping of traits. -
>>Bronwen
>>
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