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From: "Paul Hendrickseen" <>
Subject: Re: Careful Re: [DNA] BYU Pedigree Chart
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 15:09:35 -0500


Brett,
I just brought in some facts.
And I never said that the membership numbers included non-living people.
Now, how can the Mormon Church achieve this spectacular growth? Are they so
popular?
As I said, just food for thought.
Paul



>From: Brett Miller <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: Re: Careful Re: [DNA] BYU Pedigree Chart
>Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 11:36:55 -0800 (PST)
>
>Two separate issues:
>
>1. The Jewish posthumous baptim requests were
>submitted by independant genealogists years ago. The
>LDS Church had no filter in place to reject these
>individual submissions. The LDS church came to an
>agreement with Jewish organizations to check the
>submissions so this does not happen.
>
>2. LDS Church membership numbers are for living
>people, not cumulative baptisms, so the above issue
>has no bearing on membership growth.
>
>--- Paul Hendrickseen <>
>wrote:
> > I was browsing the e-mails when I came across this
> > one aboyut the Hahn
> > Family, which had some of their origins in Galicia,
> > a place where many Jews
> > lived.
> >
> > Careful when asking BYU for info or joining their
> > study group.
> >
> > Sometime ago, in their wild race to increase the
> > numbers of Mormons in the
> > world, they even converted Jews who perished during
> > the Holocaust...
> >
> > In 1995, the Mormon Church was pressured by various
> > Jewish groups to stop
> > its posthumous baptisms of Holocaust victims.
> > <http://www.trinity.edu/~mkearl/never.html>;
> >
> > Look at this chart of their own:
> > Mormon Membership Projections*
> > (in millions)
> >
> > Year High Estimate Low Estimate Actual
> > Membership
> >
> > 1985 5,680 5,288 5,911
> > 1990 6,957 6,029 7,761
> > 1994 8,182 6,697 9,025
> > 2000 10,436 7,838
> > 2020 23,480 13,246
> > 2040 52,830 22,387
> > 2060 118,867 37,833
> > 2080 267,452 63,939
> >
> > This is quite an impressive growth. How can they
> > achieve this goal?
> > Could this study at BYU, Sorensen buying into
> > Ancestry,Relative Genetics
> > buying Genetree and all of the above being under the
> > Mormon umbrella be part
> > of their game plan?
> >
> > Just food for thought.....
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > >From: "Orin R. Wells" <>
> > >Reply-To:
> > >To:
> > >Subject: Re: [DNA] BYU Pedigree Chart
> > >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:21:04 -0800
> > >
> > >At 09:54 PM 2/26/02 -0500, The Hahn Family wrote:
> > > >I'm afraid I said it wrong. It is my husband's
> > great-grandparents -- his
> > >father's mother's parents named Schmidt -- who are
> > unknown at the moment.
> > >We can contact cousins in Germany but it will take
> > time. We are also
> > >missing exact birthdates for four
> > great-grandparents who lived in Galicia
> > >(Poland) but we have maiden names of females.<<
> > >
> > >You can probably get away with reasonable estimated
> > birth dates. The
> > >important parts are knowing the surnames and
> > locations.
> > >
> > >Please send me an private e-mail with exactly what
> > you are missing and I
> > >will pass it by the BYU folks to see if you husband
> > can participate.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Orin R. Wells
> > >Wells Family Research Association
> > >P. O. Box 5427
> > >Kent, Washington 98064-5427
> > ><>
> > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wellsfam/wfrahome.html
> > >Subscribe to the "Wells-L" list on RootsWeb
> > >
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