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From: Donald Panther-Yates <>
Subject: [DNA] SIZEMORE
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 14:12:50 -0400


Hi,

Someone asked about the Sizemore results. This is also my family and
part of an ongoing research study being conducted by Dr. Elizabeth
Hirschman and myself. We tested John Sizemore, a direct descendant of
Old Ned through George Edward and Owen born in Clay Co., West Virginia.
It doesn't get more Sizemore than that! Surprisingly (not to dyed in the
wool Sizemores like myself), the sample perfectly matched Native
American Indians from Panama, Alaska and other parts of North America.
Over 3,000 Sizemores of the Whitetop Laurel Tribe of Wilkes Co.,
N.C./Wise Co., Va. have maintained that they were Indian for the last
150 years and have just as stubbornly been rejected by all government
offices. Two entire volumes of the Guion Miller applications (all
rejected) are entirely taken up by Sizemores (vol. 10 and 11). Eat crow,
Uncle Sam!

Bill, below, mentions a legend of Mary Sizemore kidnapped and
impregnated by Chief Opechancanough in Jamestown. John Sizemore, the
test subject, has a similar theory:

John A Sizemore wrote:

Hi Cousin This is my line again. My first cousin had done
research years ago and he told me that there was an Indian
at Jamestown with the name of Sizemore. Also William and Martha had
owned land in 1624 in James City County. What
are the Chances that William was Indian and Martha was White and then
there children moved back to England to return a
generation later. Has anyone thought of contacting the New
Zealand Sizemore's to see what blood lines they have. My
cousin contacted them in the 50s and found out that they were sent
there in the 1850s or so as prisoners. I have no way of
documenting any of my theories and they are not based on any evidence
other than the way I see my own family act. We
tend to be adventurous. But I feel that William and Martha were the
progenitors of Us all and then their children went back
to England and there grand children came back here. If you look at the
on-line genealogy the Sizemore line was lost in the
new world for around 60 years and appeared in England then reappeared
here and died out in England in the 1800s around
the time the New Zealand bunch got sent over. I really do not
know how hard or easy it would be to trace back how
many generations the first white blood showed up. I do not know if Old
Neds father was the first. But things could get really
clarified then.

I should also note that George All Sizemore's mother Rachel Jackson said
she named him that to remind him that he was "all" Indian. She was
kidnapped, she said, and returned to her husband pregnant. So there's
another similar legend for you all.

I find it interesting that every one of the surnames the Sizemores
married with--Green, Anderson, White, Shepherd (which MEANS "Sephard"),
Jackson, Blevins and Hart (orig. Hirsch)--are Jewish (taken in their
historical context). Most are also considered "Melungeon." There are
only about 250 identified "Melungeon" surnames on the semi'official list
maintained by the Melungeon Heritage Association and Mary Goodyear. When
your family's surnames are ALL on that list, you begin to think
something definitely was going on and being concealed from others.

Finally, it has been suggested that Opechancanough was a half brother to
Powhatan and was actually a half-breed, with one of his parents Spanish.
For part of his life he had lived at a Spanish mission in Virginia.

Don Panther-Yates

Subject:
Re: [DNA] Cooper allele values CORRECTED
Date:
Wed, 08 May 2002 01:51:07 +0000
From:

To:




Donald,

You mentioned that your Sizemore family DNA tested
positive in the male line for Native American. I am
assuming that you are aware of the traditional history
of the Sizemore family, but, since you stated that the
DNA results were surprising, maybe you are not. The
tradition goes that Mary Sizemore of Jamestown was
captured by Chief Opechancanough during the 1622
masacre. Mary had a child by the chief named Goldenhawk
Sizemore who left many descendants. If the tradition is
true, it explains why DNA of the direct male line tested
positive for Native American. Could you share the DNA
results with us? Since I descend from Chief Japasaw (I-
Oppassus) who stated that he was the brother of
Opitchipam (known brother of Opechancanough), I am very
interested in this DNA! All of the Pocahontas
descendants would also be interested, since her father,
Powhatan, was another brother of Opechancanough. Thanks
for your help.

Bill
> Dear List,
>
> I am sorry to have been such a dunce, but I posted my Cooper results
wrong.
> Below
> are the corrected allele values. Thanks, Kevin! They have no matches
in
Family
> Tree DNA's database and so are listed as unique and unknown. There are
many
near
> matches but only one match (LESLIE) that is different by only one
allele
value.
> I
> would be interested in hearing of any exact matches from the Oxford or

other
> labs.
> BTW, it is NOT my interpretation that the Cooper male ancestor was
Native
> American. It IS my theory that the Coopers (and Leslies) were
originally
Berber.
> So far in my research I have found only one surname that tested Native

American
> (SIZEMORE). This was a surprise since many people had assumed that
native
blood
> was always passed in the female line.
>
> Grady Cooper results from FTDNA
>
> 13
> 24
> 15
> 11
> 11
> 14
> 12
> 12
> 11
> 13
> 13
> 29
>
>
> Let me hear if anyone knows of an exact match.
> Don Panther-Yates

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