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From: "Gary Rea" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Welsh Patronymic Y-chromosome project [project rates]
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 09:40:44 -0600
References: <NEBBLLBOIKAJNNJCNMOAGEEKCLAA.rhite@netwalk.com>


I have successfully promoted my Rea Surname DNA Project principally on both
Genforum and Rootsweb and I have never once had anyone give me any trouble
about "commercial" messages. I think it has more to do with your approach,
the way your message is worded, than with anything else. By saying you have
no financial interest in the project, you immediately call attention to that
aspect of it, even if you intend not to. This will tend to draw out the
kooks who have something against anyone making money.

I have found the best way to handle this is to, first of all, put pricing on
your website, and only mention it there dead last. The first rule of
marketing is entice before you price. Secondly, all you have to say in your
message board posts is that you have a surname DNA project (or in your case,
a Welsh patronymic DNA project) and tell them to go to the website for
further information. Your message board posts are not the vehicle for
delivering your message; they are the means of attracting people to your
message, which is posted elsewhere. That's the way I do it, and it works
with no trouble at all.

Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Hite" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 1:08 AM
Subject: RE: [DNA] Welsh Patronymic Y-chromosome project [project rates]


> Ann,
>
> I started out just posting on Genforum sites. I don't think I'll bother
> with Rootsweb - those seem to be the ones the flak is coming from, not
> Genforum. All I've done so far is just post a message asking people to
> contact me and I have chosen just five surname sites to see how much mail
I
> get before I broaden my horizons. The Genforums I chose to post on are
all
> among the more common Welsh names - Williams, Jones, Evans, Hughes, and
> Roberts. I thought I would see what kind of response that generated and
> whether or not I could handle it w/o posting all the details I posted here
> on family sites. If I find I can't handle the volume of e-mail I get, I
> will simply post the whole message (possibly with a few modifications) on
> the Genforum sites (more of them obviously) and just deal with the
> complaints I get (if I get any). With the Hite/Hoyt project I am involved
> with, I posted messages about the cost on about 15 different Genforum
sites
> and about an equal number of Roostweb sites - all possible alternate
> spellings of the Hite and Hoyt surnames. I received only one complaint
and
> that was from a Rootsweb site administrator - so I'm willing to take my
> chances if I find I need to post a more detailed message. I'm not sure
> Genforum has the same problem with "commercial" postings that Rootsweb
does
> and it's my impression that Genforum family sites get more traffic than
> Rootsweb sites.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 12:29 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Welsh Patronymic Y-chromosome project [project rates]
>
>
> In a message dated 12/06/02 7:25:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> writes:
>
> > The project rates
>
> Richard --
>
> If you've been hanging around GENEALOGY-DNA long enough, you'll have
> witnessed several major flaps where people wishing to publicize their
> project
> have been blocked because the posts are deemed "commercial." I see you do
> have a disclaimer about having no personal financial interest, but you
might
> still get some flak. It's unfortunate, because the very first thing people
> want to know is how much it will cost. But it might be wise to contact
> various list administrators privately before posting your project
> annnouncement to other mailing lists or message boards.
>
> Ann Turner
> GENEALOGY-DNA List Administrator
> >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/GENEALOGY-DNA.html
> DNA preservation kits: >http://www.dnafiler.com
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