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From: "JECrain" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: mt DNA Results for a 103 Year Old Woman
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 17:57:14 -0600
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Many wonderful books about Melungeons can be found here.

www.continuitypress.com

A very valuable book for an indepth study of the Melungeon people in the entire region of Appalachia is found here:

http://www.continuitypress.com/melbook.html

Many surnames are included. Unfortunately, the book is temporarily unavailable, but I urge researchers to obtain a copy as soon as possible. Try your library for now.

Here is an excellent book for a thorough study of the Goins and Minors along with special sections on the Arrington, Bledsoe, England, Fisher, Hurd, Johnson, Lawson, Riddle, Roller, Vanzant, and Wallen families. A substantial chapter deals with the Sizemores. These last named are not core Melungeon surnames, but connected by marriage.

http://www.continuitypress.com/cgi-bin/quikstore.cgi?product=JHG-MOPF

Many pitfalls exist in Melungeon research. However, I don't think a person can possibly go wrong by sticking to documented facts.

Janet Crain










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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: mt DNA Results for a 103 Year Old Woman


> David,
>
> Collins is a primary Melungeon name in Hancock and Claiborne Counties. You
> might also want to visit a website www.melungeonhealth.org that will give
> you some physical characteristics to see if she has. They are not
> exclusive, but indicators. For example, one of my children has the
> anatolian bump, one does not - but all 3 of us (me and 2 of them) have the
> Asian shovel teeth and 2 (both kids) have the Asian eye folds, but I do not.
> Interesting, huh.
>
> Also, if you are interested in hardcopy reading, there are several books in
> print. If you or anyone is interested in these, I can dig them out and
> post. One in particular, called something like the Melungeons Yesterday and
> Today, written by a lady by the last name of Bible and printed by Mountain
> Press at www.mountainpress.com is particularly excellent and includes
> original research and discussed all fo the theorys about origins.
>
> Rpberta Estes
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Faux" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: mt DNA Results for a 103 Year Old Woman
>
>
>
> Hello Beth: Thank you very much for your reply below.
> I am quite familiar with the Melungeon groups and the other so - called
> "tri - racial isolates" from the Atlantic Seaboard and Appalachian
> Mountains. How fascinating. I will spend the day looking up information on
> the web concerning this most intersting group. It is also interesting to
> learn that my mother in law's mtDNA profile may help to support your
> proposal for the origins of the Melungeons.
> Most of my mother in law's ancestors disappear into the hills, from Virginia
> through the Carolinas to northern Alabama to the Ozarks. It has been a
> source of frustration that I have been unable to locate European homes for
> any of them - now I think I understand why.
> I know that the surname Wright (Rebecca Wright born about 1812 in Tennessee
> being my mother in law's great grandmother and being the one who indirectly
> provided the mtDNA) is found among the Cherokees who resided in Tennessee.
> Other surnames in my mother in law's ancestry such as Collins (from Georgia)
> and McDaniel (from Virginia) fall into the same category. As to forenames,
> Jemima (her paternal grandmother) and Sabra (her paternal great grandmother)
> are not very typical and may be suggestive of other elements within her
> mysterious Southern ancestral mix.
> I suspected mixed ancestry, so I have requested PrintDNA testing from
> AncestrybyDNA (via FTDNA) and it will be very interesting to learn whether
> there is evidence of non - IndoEuropean genes.
> Thank you for your input Beth. David.
> wrote:Yes, David, your Mother-in-law's maternal DNA is
> very likely Melungeon -- an
> Appalachian ethnic group which has been present since the 1500's in the
> Southeastern United States. We have several ancestral lines who are proving
> to have Semitic, Central Asian, Mediterrannean and Indo-Pakistani DNA --
> both
> paternal and maternal. Some Melungeon researchers (myself included) believe
> that this is because we were originally a colony of Sephardic Jews and
> Muslim
> Moors who initially arrived in the New World as Conversos. We have a growing
> data base at Family Tree DNA, if you would like to add examine your mother's
> scores in comparison to it. Welcome to the 'tribe' ; somehow from reading
> your posts, I knew it was going to turn out this way. Beth Caldwell
> Hirschman
>
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