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From: David Faux <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Native American markers
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:05:12 -0800 (PST)
Nancy Pichette <> wrote:
sorry about that last email , I don't know what I did wrong. I got my
brothers test back but I had ordered the 25 marker test by mistake.
If I understand the person I spoke to at FTDNA it tested for my brothers
paternal line which seem to have come from Europe. It has a lot of numbers
of which none I understand . There was a two step Mutation Haplogroup R1b
county France and 5 or 6 3 step mutations with 18 or 20 4 step mutations.
with the following DYS#s and Alleles numbered listed below.
Needless to say I have already orderd for the add on of the DNAprint, this
is just to confusing for me. I don't even know what this means.
However I don't think it has anything to do with my Great grandmother being
a Native American since it is the Paternal line of the family. Would that be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would put this in the "blessing in disguise" category. The Y "signature" you now have applies to not only your brother, but to your father, grandfather etc. all in the male line back to the earliest times.
What it suggests is that your original ancestor on the paternal side came from somewhere in Europe, but it it interesting to note that no exact 12/12 marker matches were found in the FTDNA database. I presume this was the one from the Univeristy of Arizona. There are two Y databases on the FTDNA site that you access via the code numbers you were given. The one noted above, and the Recent Ethnic Origins database, which is a combination of the UofA database and samples submitted to FTDNA directly. If you go over to the various orange bars on the left side of the page, you can click on each you will find that most will be pertinent (e.g., the one with the REO database).
In addition you can try www.ybase.org ; and www.ystr.org to check for matches with your brother's "numbers" in the European and USA databases. Basically the information helps to round out the picture of your family - and you should especially check on the "haplotypes" (configuration of numbers) in relation to those with your surname since someone may be able to help you connect with your American or European ancestors via one on the many mega surname studies out there. If you give your maiden surname, I sure someone on the list may be able to point you in the right direction.
In other words while this may seem now to be a bit frustrating because you were looking for answers to different questions, months from now you will likely be jazzed because now you are in a position to find out more about your paternal line - and if you have noted the postings on this list, there is an overwhelming interest in this matter, and a large number of people "out there" who will be able to assist you.
Again, when you get all your various DNAPrint information back please let me know, since the number of people being tested in one family is quite rare, and there are databases which I will recommend that you submit your information to so that others can see the "broader picture" in relation to this form of testing; and I know that Dr. Matt Thomas the Head Scientist at the lab that does that particular form of testing for FTDNA will be very interested to see the results of a family study such as you have begun.
Keep us informed. David.
Dr. David K. Faux, 4028 Larwin Ave., Cypress, CA, 90630, USA
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