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From: Charles <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Asian content in Europeans
Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 14:38:47 -0400
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Steve,

Take a look at the initial Y chromosome haplogroup data in my PA German
DNA Project table: http://www.kerchner.com/pa-gerdna.htm

When I went back and looked at my Y-DNA results in my earlier surname
project, what "jumped out" at me looking at the data with the hindsight
wisdom of this new DNAPrint 2.0 test surprising results information, is
that one of the 10 or so male haplotype clans in my project is in the
"N" haplogroup. That haplogroup has Asian and probably Mongolian roots
per FTDNA's website. That person is now being DNAPrint tested. When
funds are available he will be mtDNA tested too.

Thus in my small group of males in my surname project that is about 10%
of the Y chromosome clans listed. See the tables in the surname project
success site: http://www.kerchner.com/success.htm

Most of the male clans are R1b. And several more male clans are in the
"I" haplogroup. And who knows, possibly some the "I" haplogroup also
have some East Asian content too to contribute to the average content.
Either that or the Vikings simply contributed their Y chromosome marker
and left. But certain northern populations such as Finland have
significant Asian sources, I am told. So the data may be there in the Y
chromosome results for southern Germanic people who emigrated to PA
circa early 1700's to support my hypothesis. Others and I have suggested
that FTDNA explore that using their in-house data on the 1/3 of
Europeans who have tested with East Asian content results. They said
they would look into it to see if they have any correlation between the
number of certain Y markers being higher in those Europeans who tested
with significant East Asian content.

As for my project, I need more testing of the close knit "PA German, aka
PA Dutch" population ethnic group. I am in the process of getting my
project going and will be soliciting more local "PA German, aka PA
Dutch" males to join the test. Maybe more "N" Y chromosome markers will
show up. We'll have to wait and see.

http://www.kerchner.com/pa-gerdna.htm

Charles
http://www.kerchner.com/kerchdna.htm


Steve Williamson wrote:
>
> Bonnie, Charles,
> It seems to me that Charles's explanation makes the most sense from an
> historical standpoint (admitting fully that I am only an amateur historian -
> my degree is in the Humanities).
>
> However, what bothers me is the discrepancy between the 2.0 test results,
> and the observed very low frequencies of specifically east Asian Y & mtDNA
> haplogroups in Europe. Granted, the DNA Print test does not look at the same
> markers as Y & mtDNA tests, but one would expect more East Asian Y among
> Europeans, no?
>
> Steve W.
>
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