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From: Charles <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Asian content in Europeans
Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 14:52:37 -0400
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Steve,

Thanks for that information. One thing is sure. The source is not
recent. That is certain.

Charles


Steve Williamson wrote:
>
> Charles, Bonnie,
>
> Please take a look, if you have access to a copy, in "The History &
> Geography of Human Genes" by Cavalli-Sforza et al (1994). Find the
> unabridged version, which has all the supporting data.
>
> On page 273, referring to Lapps, "A genetic analyis has shown that they are
> an admixture of Mongoloid and Caucasoid people, in approximately equal
> proportions (47.5% and 52.5%, respectively; standard error, +/- 4.9%). ....
> Of the other two major European populations that speak a Uralic language,
> the Finns have a proportion of 90% European genes and 10% Uralic with a
> standard error of +/- 4.1% (Guglielmino-Matessi et al. 1990). An analysis of
> Hungarians gave similar results. .... in the ninth century A.D....From
> 100,000 to 500,000...[Magyars]...occupied the territory of modern Hungary.
> ... The current estimate of admixture is 13% (+/- 2.3%)."
>
> Then go to page 292, and look at Fig. 5.11.2. Note that for the second
> principal (genetic) component, there is an area around southwest
> Germany/northeast France (roughly Alsace-Lorraine/Rheinland-Pfalz area),
> which matches Scandinavia & the area of Poland & the Ukraine. It looks sort
> of like a genetic "island," in a sense, of Asiatic genes. There is a peak in
> this component in Lappland, which "...may be explained by noting that Lapps
> have a stronger Mongoloid component than any Eastern European population.
> Thus, the simplest explanation may still be that of Menozzi et al. (1978a),
> namely, gene flow caused by one or more migrations of Mongoloid Uralic
> speakers from Northwestern Asia. MIGRATION OF STEPPE NOMADS OR THEIR
> DESCENDANTS AND THE "BARBARIAN" INVASIONS TOWARD THE END OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE
> AND AFTERWARD SEEM TO HAVE NO INFLUENCE ON THIS PC." (emphasis mine)
>
> In other words, not Sarmatians, not Huns, not Mongols, but prehistoric
> Uralic migrations, plus the Magyar invasion of the 9th century A.D., are
> considered the most likely sources for the persistent Asian genes in
> northern Europeans; and again, note the higher presence in the places of
> origin of the Pennsylvania Dutch (Rhine & Danube valleys).
>
> Steve W.
>

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