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From: "Alan Derriscott" <>
Subject: Fw: [DNA] PHYLOGEOGRAPHY of P.Underhill and SNPs
Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 15:18:33 +0100


Alan J Derriscott
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Wallasey, Wirral, England.
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From: "Alan Derriscott" <>
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Subject: Re: [DNA] PHYLOGEOGRAPHY of P.Underhill and SNPs


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip Ritter" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] PHYLOGEOGRAPHY of P.Underhill and SNPs
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> Sorry about getting my Woods Mixed with my Hills in the previous message,
Alan.

> Hello Philip
>
> You wrote :
>
> > FTDNA has made a good first step by offering to test for UEP's that will
> > define the haplogroup that you are most likely to belong based on your
STR
> > values. It would be nice if they could just include a set of the most
> > relevant SNP's (perhaps the ones that define R1b, R1a, H, I, G, J and O)
> in
>
> To supply all the UEPs you suggest would be an exercise too wide. Using P.
> Underhill's several scientific papers you can work out from Hg1,Hg2,Hg3
> etc.just exactly the number of UEPs required for your major UEP, ie,
M170,
> M173 etc. P. Underhill et al. 2000,
> http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/AHG_2001_v65_p43.pdf (ends p43.pdf)
is
> essential to work the project from raw data. My haplotype is mainstream
> Hg2.47 - M170; that puts me in P.Underhill classification (vi), (yellow
> coloured on his Fig.1,p.45). To be sure of my DNA signature I must test,
not
> only for M170, but also for M72,M223,M21 & M26, clearly shown on the
maximim
> parsimony phylogeny chart. Your colleague, John Chandler, I think is Hg1 -
> M173. His haplotype fits into the P.Underhill classification (ix) (orange
> coloured on his fig.1,p.45). John should be tested for M173 and the other
> 10 UEPs immediately below the M173 line. Harking back to your
> phylogeographic input, 8th November 2002, Hammer et al, is column
(y=gamma),
> Semino et al, is column (e=epsilon) and Underhill el al, is (b=beta), I
> agree with John that the YCC nomenclature is inconvenient, but necessary;
> made easier by the 'world family tree' of P.Underhill et al, 2000, page
> 45,fig.1.
>
> Best wishes,Alan.
>
> Alan J Derriscott
> <>
> Wallasey, Wirral, England.
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