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From: David Faux <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Possible AMH Jewish Migrations to England and Scotland
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 12:24:19 -0700 (PDT)
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Ok Beth, but in my opinion you are going to have a bit of an uphill battle convincing the average member of clan Davidson that their original ancestor was Sephardic Jewish. Any evidence I have seen, either historical, anthropological, or DNA suggests that the Scots are a blend of Cetlic, Anglo - Saxon, Norse, and a few Normans.

Granted that taking my Y profile, I would probably be considered a "classic" descendant of a Sephardic Jew - but if, and only if, you used the Y-STR database. Here, as I said before, I match 13 of 407 samples in Columbia Antioquia, and 5 of 185 samples in Central Portugal; but 0 of 428 samples in Berlin, and only 2 of 247 samples in London (my Faux ancestors being British). This database uses 9 markers. However, if we switch to the University of Arizona database with 12 markers, my entire profile of matches shifts to Northern Europe. Of course sample size from each region in each database has to be taken into consideration.

My point - your conclusions are likely to be dramatically influenced by the database you chose to use for your comparisons. Since you are exploring hypotheses in relation to places like Columbia and Louisiana I presume you are going to use the USA Y-STR database. If so, are the sample sizes here really large enough to use in testing hypotheses?

Clearly your work is very interesting, and could ultimately require us to re-examine a lot of history - but I hope you are prepared for the inevitable criticism that comes with putting forward a very controversial hypothesis.

I look forward to reading your publication.

David.

wrote:
Roberta and DNA listers,
That is how Don Yates and I moved our research 'back' to Scotland . We
traced some of the Melungeon families back to Scotland and Northern Ireland and
that gave us the idea that maybe they had not changed their names, as had been
proposed by some. We developed the hypothesis that their surnames were
accurate, but that they had not oriiginated in the British Isles, but rather had
migrated there during the past 900 to 500 years and maintained some of their
Judaic religious practices.
Incidentally the Clan Davidson includes several sept surnames that are
variations of the name David; these include Davies, Davis, Daoud, Dowd, Dowie,
Dovie, Dawes, and Dodd. These are all variations of the Hebrew/Arabic form of
David, which is Dauod.
If our hypothesis is correct, then folks descending from the clans listed
in the earlier post should match at least some of those in later Sephardic
migrations. For example, we would expect to see matches in places where
Portuguese and Spanish colonists (which often included Converso Jews) settled -- for
example, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, Texas, New Orleans, Puerto Rico,
Cuba, and the Phillipines. All the best, Beth





Dr. David K. Faux, P.O. Box 192, Seal Beach, CA, 90740, USA




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