GENEALOGY-DNA-L ArchivesArchiver > GENEALOGY-DNA > 2003-07 > 1059568918
Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: GENEALOGY-DNA-D Digest V03 #496
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 05:41:58 -0700
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From: "dfeedspm" <>
> This has nothing to do with enrolement, and everything to do with "Indian"
self classification and self determination, there are many historical
attempts at eurocentric classification of who is a "Indian", utilizing
classification methdologies that are
> not "NA" . DNA Geneology, has potential as one of those methods, in my
> I don't know personally, many "NA's" that are lining up at the ole DNA
Geneology well of knowledge, to take tests that allow them to determing
their percentages of "NA".
> That smacks of "blood quantum" genocide parameters and governmental
classification reduction methdologies.
We're all descended from a very very long line of tribes that evolved with
gene flow rates that are at least a factor of 10 lower than they are now.
The Hopi Elders have made it clear that until what they call 'the Purifier'
comes, intermarriage with other peoples is not a good thing.
But of course there are similar tribal legends among northern Europeans
involving the older Vanir gods in conflict with the upstart Aesir. When
they finally made their uneasy peace, the Vanir gods, Frey and Freya are
mocked by one of the Aesir for inbreeding.
Don't presume that indigenous people have tribal identities that are
independent of consanguinity.
Indeed, the idea that consanguinity is or a characer flaw if not evil is
very much an imposition and may even be deeply rooted in mass religions of
the post-neolithic represented by Judeo-Christianity, Islam and, in early
northern European history by the Aesir.