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From: "Steven C. Perkins" <>
Subject: Re: FW: [DNA] About the R1a1 findings on Y Chromosome
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:42:27 -0500 (CDT)
In-Reply-To: <BAY8-F112DggvKL23sB0000a70c@hotmail.com>


Dennis:

I am just reading the copy of the new paper at FTDNA. FTDNA lists me as
R1a with my haplotype 15,12,25,11,11,13. That is line 7 in Table 4 and
only has entries for Nor, Sorb, and Bel. Since I don't have access to the
online version I can't see which Haplogroup this haplotype is designated
by these researchers. This haplotype is not found in Table 6 of the paper.
It appears that DYS391 MUST be a 10 to be in R1a1.
Is that correct? If so, does that mean M17 was not present in these
samples for this haplotype?

Regards,

Steven C. Perkins


On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Dennis Garvey wrote:

> Basically anyone who has been classified as "R1a" can pretty much assume
> that they are "R1a1". Being classified as "R1a" (no "*") means that you have
> been found to have the SRY10831b mutation - but that you haven't been
> checked for the M17 mutation.
>
> One of the things that Hammer talks about in his recent Ashkenazi Levite
> paper (now available in the FTDNA library) is that they found a Belarusian
> man who had a the SRY10831b mutation but not the M17 mutation - that put him
> in the rare haplogroup R1a*. That was only the third such individual that
> has ever been found (the other two were Armenian). Otherwise everyone who
> has been tested for both the SRY10831b and M17 mutations has either been
> found to have both or neither.
>
> Dennis Garvey
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