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From: David Faux <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: Viking and Anglo-Saxon Haplogroups
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <a9.4919b87e.2caf4a55@aol.com>


Anyone interested in this issue should read the 2001 article by James F. Wilson et al. entitled, "Genetic Evidence for Different Male and Female Roles During Cultural Transitions in the British Isles" (www.pnas.org/cgi/doi/10.1073/pnas.071036898) .

The bottom line is that there is no know way yet determined to differentiate between Danish Viking and Anglo - Saxon, simply because they came from adjacent areas that are not in any effective way effectively isolated. In truth, although probabilities need to be taken into consideration, Viking could mean R1a1, R1b, Q, or I. Only R1a1 is diagnostic in the sense of relative certainty - even being able to pinpoint a specific area - the western coast of Norway. Alas this is very rare, and those of us with a R1b haplogroup (via my paternal grandfather) can only dream of identifying the exact location of our ancestors in 700AD. Fortunately my maternal grandfather is R1a1 whose ancestors are from the Shetland Islands (i.e., Norse Viking stock).

David F.

wrote:
Dear List,
I'm confused. Y haplogroup I is referred to by FTDNA as "Viking". I assume
this means Danish and not Norwegian Viking (which is R1a?). But the
Anglo-Saxons from the Schleswig-Holstein area who invaded eastern and central England
after the Romans also carried Y haplogroup I, right? So both Danish Vikings
and Anglo-Saxons were haplogroup I?
Many thanks to anyone who can clarify this for me.
Lisa


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