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From: "Nancy Pichette" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] DNAprint on Nightline
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:07:11 -0500
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Malcom
If you can tell anything by pictures , I will happily send you a link to
some family photos and see if you can tell me anything about my family.
After having the DNA Print for myself, brother, sister and great uncle
and having myself test 24% native american and my brother test 0 % , I am
always amazed to see people mention a + or - of 2. 5 %.
And after the shock of " Maybe this is not a full sibling" Test confirmed
that my brother and great uncle were an exact match .
So next trying the paper trail you all mention , after years of searching ,
I paid a professional Genealogist 1200.00 ( after 400 or 500 to other
researhers)to only find out who was most likely my Great Grandmothers
parents. (Most info in the report came from me)We all know most likely don't
cut it in Paper trails. Just like most likely doesnt cut it in DNA Prints.
I will continue to read and hope for more accurate tests to come along,
I feel though I have been somewhat mislead in all areas of my research.
Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone!
Nancy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Malcolm Dodd" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:08 AM
Subject: RE: [DNA] DNAprint on Nightline
> <No...just a page with the four subgroups and percentages: 57 percent
> Indo-European, 39 percent Native American, 4 percent East Asian - and zero
> percent African.....no triangle was shown. I have always been critical of
> the variances in the DNAprint test percentage results and the
> non-repeatability of their tests per my earlier emails on this forum...
>
> My interest was the human side of Wayne Joseph reaction to the fact that
he
> was no long a Negro, Black, or African American as his Mother had told
> him...and the calm amazement on his face at learning this news.>
>
> When one receives news such as Mr Joseph did I can say from my experience
> (alleged 25% Asian - Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Polynesian) that shock can
> easily be mistaken for "calm amazement".
>
> Because the test cannot differentiate satisfactorily between East Asian
and
> Native American I obtained a book to see what in pictures the phenotype of
> Native Americans.
> It is, "The Cultures of Native North Americans" by C L Feest.
> On page 4 of the book is a photograph of a "young Cheyenne" dressed for a
> powwow. Mr Joseph and the person depicted have exactly the same genotype.
>
> On page 13 there is a picture of a still from the movie "The Silent Enemy"
> 1927. The wording underneath says,
> "In the 20th century, movies brought the fictional image of Native
Americans
> to life. Buffalo Child Long Lance, the main protagonist in "The Silent
> Enemy" was himself closer to fiction than fact. Born a colored in
> Winston-Salem, North Carolina, Sylvester Long transformed himself into
first
> a Cherokee and later a Blackfoot, and described his Indian childhood in
his
> still popular autobiography. He committed suicide when his true origins
> became known."
>
> I wonder what in 1927 the indigenous Americans made of an indigenous
African
> depicting their people?
> Malcolm
>
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