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From: "Earl Beaty" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Haplogroup R1b3
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 07:27:15 -0700
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Bill,

In a graph I associate with Dennis, DYS393=14 was indicated to be present in
about 5% of the Iberian segment of R1b. The Anatolian segment had a much
smaller fraction. My inclination has been to treat this result as
representative of the general population, but that may not be correct. A
problem I had was that the man who had 14 was a descendant of a man with 13,
implying a rather recent mutation (or a misinterpreted relationship). In
your case with all the Hurst group having 14 you need to consider the
possibility that the mutation occurred over 1000 years ago.

I suggest that your sampling strategy ought to include being a diverse as
possible to get some idea whether the 14 is ordinary or rare. In general, it
is not wise to pay undue attention to any one marker.

Happy New Year everybody.

--Earl

----- Original Message -----
From: "William Hurst" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Haplogroup R1b3


> >
> > I think I should offer some explanation of my interest in this
relatively
> > obscure topic. Recently the Beatty Surname Group received its 32nd test
> > result. It included a value 14 at DYS393, which is rather unusual.
>
> Hi Earl and all,
>
> Every one of us confirmed R1b Hursts from Virginia has a DYS393 of 14. I'm
> trying to get someone to test who would connect with us two more
generations
> back, so maybe we can eventually find when the mutation to 14 happened.
>
> Bill Hurst
>
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