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From: Mike Humphrey <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Re:Need info about NA of Va. & NC--1700's.
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:46:00 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <26.435fe5c4.2d25c7cf@aol.com>


Greg ...

I think you & I match 11/12, and therefore you match 11/12 with several of
the Liles project. Some folks in Liles, Suttons, and myself were initially
assesed as "I*" by FTDNA, and we have both historical & genealogical evidence
of Scandinavian ancestry. (The Liles & I match 23/25 & have ordered 37 marker
upgrades - current differences are all "fast moving markers").

The Liles have traceable ancestry in "Isle of Wight" county in Virginia,
named, we assume, because of numerous settlers from the Isle of Wight in the
English Channel, a current focal point in our genealogical research,
~(1000-1700).

In the time frame you mention in your msg, my paternal ancestors were in
Connecticut & upstate New York. (Some of my maternal ancestors, Byroms &
Cherrys, were in the Virginas from the 1700s onward).

Off the top, I don't know how close "isle of Wight" county is to your counties
of interest, but it's easy to determine.

Happy hunting ...

Mike ...
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--- wrote:
> Am I correct in understanding from the discussion that at present there is no
> way to determine if a person has a percentage of NA which would be from
> Virginia or North Carolina?
>
> I show 92% IE and 8% NA.I understand from the discussion that anything under
> 10% might indicate background noise.There has been a question of genealogical
> research within my George family as to whether there was some Cherokee
> ancestry.
>
> Although my branch of Georges has not had an active tradition of NA ancestry
> my uncle looks quite NA.My dad and older sister have recently told me that
> they believe my paternal grandfather looked NA.I remember my grandfather quite
> well and he did seem to have a somewhat dark complexion,black hair, dark brown
> eyes.My dads complexion is lighter with blue eyes.
>
> I have mentioned previously that I match only one other participant on the
> George DNA Project.At least a couple of people in one of the groups of the
> George DNA Project indicate a paper genealogical descent from Nicholas George.Jr.
> ca. 1635-1700 of Lancaster Co.,Va.The man whom I match and myself should ,by
> genealogical research,be descendants of Nicholas George,Jr.However we do not
> match those who claim descent from Nicholas,Jr.
>
> The DnaPrint indicates that I --and my match--have a Scandanavian ancestry
> before our direct male ancestor settled in Britain.In an e-mail, FTDNA confirmed
> this to me.FTDNA also wrote that the Match and I were the only participants
> in the George DNA Project with a Scandanavian backround.
>
> Because I do not match any of the others in the George DNA Project and
> because of the Scandanavian origins which do not match others in the George DNA
> Project I am wondering if there could have been an adoption,or case of taking in
> an orphaned child who was raised as a George or if a maternal ancestor could
> have had a child at the time she married a George and the child was
> subsequently raised as a George?I believe this would have been ca. 1700-1740's..
>
> My greatx3 grandfather,Solomon George,1757-1830 had 4 sons.We now know that
> descendants from the two youngest sons are an exact match.Solomon George had a
> sister named Winnifred George who was married twice.Descendants from her first
> husband do not believe there is any NA ancestry.Descendants from her second
> husband believe Winnifred was pure Cherokee.The parents of Solomon George and
> sister Winnifred George were William George,1724-1787 and Winifred--maiden name
> unknown/not confirmed but believed to be Chilton.They moved from Lancaster
> Co.,Va. about 1745 and settled in Augusta County,Va. in the area that later
> became Botetourt County,Va.The younger Winifred and her first husband settled in
> Knoxville,TN with Solomon settling there afterwards and by 1799.Their
> father,William George was reportedly killed by Indians in Virginia.The elder
> Winifred--maiden name unknown--George was born in 1728 in or near Lancaster Co.,Va. and
>
> is reportedly buried --grave presently unmarked--in McCampbell
> Cemetery,Knoxville,TN. She died 16 December 1809.
>
> I am trying to determine if William George,1724-1787 could have been
> adopted.His son,Solomon George did not use any of the traditional earlier George names
> for his sons.William and his siblings do tend to refect the traditional
> naming pattern.
>
> If William George was adopted it might explain the Scandanavian background as
> well as the possibility of NA ancestry.With this in mind I am very
> interested in DNA connected to the NA of Virginia and North Carolina.
>
> On the 12 marker test I match 11 out of 12 markers with the Sutton
> family.There was a branch of this family in Northumberland Co.,Va. which is near
> Lancaster Co.,Va.Matching 11 out of 12 with the Suttons but not with any of the
> Georges?Umm.
>
> Greg George
>
> Oklahoma City,Oklahoma
>
>
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Mike Humphrey Trombonist & HPC Computer Scientist
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