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From: "Michael Harper8" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] DAVISSON results in - R1a
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 15:46:05 -0600
In-Reply-To: <000001c3d0a5$7adc1210$3c9dcd18@DCXKT231>


Thank you for this information. It is very thought provoking. Compared to us
Harpers, differences are 390 24 (we three are all 25), 459b 10 (same as my
two relatives, but I am 9), and 464d 16 (same as my relatives, but I am 15).
So your family match 24/25 with my relatives and 22/25 with me.

Michael Harper

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From: Mark and Gary [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 2:26 PM
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Subject: RE: [DNA] DAVISSON results in - R1a


A recent study of possible Vikings descendants in the UK (Wirral and
West Lancashire) has been published and was based upon the DNA collected
from a list of the surnames which appeared on church records in the year
1366 promising to contribute to the stipend of the priest of the altar
of Our Lady at Ormskirk. Childers and Childress are not on the list of
surnames in 1366, but "Childsfather" is which may be a church reference
to Child of Our Father, or Child of God, a birth outside of wedlock. We
speculate, without other evidence, that the one or more lines of the
surname Child, with possible later declensions to Childer and Childress
surnames (Childer and Childress are plurals of Child in regional English
vernacular), may owe its origin to the church's recording of an out of
wedlock birth of their ancestors, though that is not suggested in the
Viking study. The Viking study only references that the surname
"Childsfather" existed in 1366 in a community that was the site of a
previous and major Viking settlement in the UK. The Viking study is
summarized at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~sczsteve/survey.htm
>however his DYS 449 has a value of 34. The Childresses seem to trace
to
>the British Isles. The results also made me think that perhaps there
was
>a major adoption event in the Davisson-Harper-Childress background.
>Gary Childress
>Childress-Childress DNA Project
>The FTDNA results for our Childress are as follows
>13 24 15 10 11 14 12 12 10 13 11 30 15 9 10 11 11 23 14 20 34
15
>15 15 16



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