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From: "Mary AsaWoman" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] DNAPrint Test Worked for Me
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:33:21 -0800
References: <20040103210240.50377.qmail@web41207.mail.yahoo.com>


One way to truly prove American Indian ancestry is by a thorough paper trail
search, using government records, birth, christening/baptism, school,
marriage, death records, etc. In the past, there have been mention of Native
American genealogical databases, but, as I do not have any American Indian
ancestry to speak of (as noted by both paper trail and DNAPrint search), I
did not bookmark them. However, if one really thinks they have American
Indian ancestors, they should, by all means, encouraged to search for them,
regardless of the DNAPrint results. If someone could recall the genealogical
sources for American Indian records, would they please post them here?

The problem with AncestrybyDNA is that the lab has no competition. Why isn't
there another lab out there offering the same kind of testing for deep
ancestry? Because DNAPrint has patented the process? Well, one can do a
patent search on Frudakis, the company, etc., locate the actual patents, and
then, I am sure there are some very capable DNA scientists who can use other
markers, do workarounds, or such, and come up with other testing methods.
Then, DNAPrint will have to come out with 2.5 and 3.0 or lose business. And
FTDNA will have at least one other choice where to send its ancestry
testing.

Mary, the one with the two cats

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Faux" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 13:02 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] DNAPrint Test Worked for Me


> Lucy:
>
> Concerning DNAPrint Version 2.0, I set the bar at 30%. I have been in the
game since day 1, being one of the first to be tested. I have kept a
careful eye on the results posted by all and most particularly on the
database site offered by Charles Kerchner. By virtue of the problems noted
over and over on this List (e.g., systematic errors, unrepresentative and
small samples) anything below about 30% is very suspect - but of course, any
result is worth noting - and comparing to other info to see if the
percentage agrees with other data sources. What Troubles me is that there
are people who are now claiming to be 15% (or whatever) Native American
solely based on the DNAPrint test - this is just not realistic. All one can
say is that the test hints at some unknown percentage of Native American
ancestry.
>
> David F.
>
> Lucy Hubrich <> wrote:
> Ah, yes Ray, I forgot to mention that after both my uncle's tests came
back
> and I realized that I had the potential to have Native American ancestry
in
> me from both sides of my family. I therefore had the DNAPrint test
> performed on myself and it came back 20% Native American. I do not
consider
> this out of line since siblings can inherit differing amounts of the
> combined DNA, and I could not directly test either of my parents. So, my
> question to you is, how big of a percentage does a person need before you
> consider it indicative of Native American ancestry, or do you not trust
the
> test at all??
>
> This, of course, is turning into a "religious" war and neither of us are
> going to change the other's mind, but I was just wondering if there was a
> threshold where you actually thought it might be worth looking into?
>
> Lucy Hubrich
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raymond Whritenour"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 1:18 PM
> Subject: [DNA] DNAPrint Test Worked for Me
>
>
> > Lucy:
> >
> > With all due respect, if you had asked your uncle for the pictures,
> > during the normal course of genealogical research, you would have found
> > the pictures of your ancestor who "looks Native American," anyway. Your
> > uncles' DNAPrint 2.0 BGA test results don't prove anything about your
> > minority ancestry. The fact that a small MLE percentage of NA showed up
> > on their tests merely provided a catayst which prompted you to look for
> > more information. If people start looking for NA ancestors based on a
> > small percentage NA MLE from this test, there's going to be an awful lot
> > of disappointed people out there!
> >
> > Ray Whritenour
> >
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