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From: David Francis <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Re Conclusive message - not DNA-Genealogy
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 18:17:44 -0500
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While I'm embarrassed by the heavy-handed flaming that Richard Cottrell got, I'm here to tell you that one can't count on one's ancestors to be decorous! And unlike Richard, I didn't need DNA analysis to prove it. My father (he's 91!) still hasn't forgiven me for proving (from German Lutheran parish records) that not one but BOTH of his immigrant ggparents were illegitimate in the old country! I still haven't been able to find out who one of the ggggfathers was.
(Unfortunately, gggfather's only son died in infancy in 1879, so there won't be any Y-chromosome ID.) On top of that, my genealogy includes three divorces in two generations in an era when divorce wasn't all that common. I've retrieved some pretty sordid "he said - she said" from the public (court) record. I also have evidence that my ggmother married her second husband BEFORE she was divorced from my ggfather. It looks like she only went through the legal formalities so
she could be sure of getting the 2nd guy's Army pension. But hey! They're my ancestors and a hearty, lusty, yeasty, beasty bunch they were. I treasure every one!

7th generation David

Kenny Hedgpeth wrote:

> Malcolm -
>
> it makes sense to me, oh and by the way in my parts of the USA [west coast] it means the same thing ... it's just that some people put a little twist on it, to what ever their liking would be and some times depending on what the situation at hand would be :) if it was me I would have gone as far as ... oh never mind I don't want to tarnish the fairy tail any further :)
>
> the newbie needs to take off the blinders, TRUTH is in the evidence, not heresy or what ever great auntie Matilda Poopendecker would want people to think her ancestors were like ... though some of us would like to be Saintly or Christ like, it's a hard pedestal to stay standing atop of :) face it things happen and later generations can't fix it up like it never happen ...
>
> the TRUTH will find you out ...
>
> all we can surmise from these test results is (1) there is definitely no connection at all [at
> least with his own line] (2) there might have been an unknown or unrecorded adoption in the past (3) there might have been an extra or pre-marital affair in the past (4) the first husband or soon to be suitor died, and the [known or not knowing] expecting widow re-married before the child was born ... these last three categories, although a fact of life, can be a disappointment in ones research efforts. We are still family, just not how one would have thought [hope] ...
>
> Ken -
>
> Malcolm Dodd wrote:
>
> >In trying to reduce the number of pointless messages on this list I have
> >inadvertently done the opposite.
> >There is an increasing divergence between English language usage in USA and
> >in the United Kingdom.
> >The messages posted by Richard Cottrell included the following use of the
> >English language, which to me is incomprehensible.
> ><So not everyone in the world that doesn't match they way DNA testing wants
> >everyone to believe>
> >I would best describe such a list posting as "acting in an unintelligent or
> >careless manner".
> >This happens to be the prime description of the word "stupid" in Webster's
> >Dictionary.
> >
> >However I understand USA usage of the word "stupid" has another connotation
> >and I therefore apologise for its use in the context of an earlier message
> >of mine.
> >Malcolm Dodd
> >
> >
> >
> >
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