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From: "Mark MacDonald" <>
Subject: RE: Nortons RE: [DNA] Press Release - Clan Donald USA Genetic Project
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:18:54 -0600
In-Reply-To: <KNEELAJDGJGHOILDPLMKEEMCJCAA.snorton@nortonfamily.net>


Scott
The list of Irish clans claiming descent from one of the three Colla
brothers who seized Ulster and sacked Emain Macha around 325 AD was taken
from volume 2 of O Hart's Irish Pedigrees in an appendix dedicated to the
Collas and their history.

I don't know anything about the Conyers origins but I would not be
schocked to find an Irish line in York given the historical kingdom of
Dublin and York. It is wrong to assume that just vikings travelled as
military adventurers, gaels did too. For example, the hebrideans supported
Sigurd the Stout in invading Ireland before Clontarf. Somerled's fleet
attacking Glasgow in 1164 had Dublin hulls and men. When I saw a handfull
of Norton names in ybase near the Colla signature, that appeared to support
the hypothesis. I would like to obtain further information from your Norton
database(including any history about multiple origin locations for Nortons)
and am happy to learn you have an organized study.
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Norton [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:31 AM
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Subject: Nortons RE: [DNA] Press Release - Clan Donald USA Genetic
Project


Mark,

The Norton family of Horry/Marion SC match this signature with just a 1-step
mutation. This family traces its line to Norton-Conyers in Durham and York,
England circa 1300 when Conyers married a female Norton who inherited lands
an so took the Norton name.

The paper trail is quite good, but until we test a decendant of the Conyers
line we won't know for sure. This is also the line of Lord Grantley.

What can you tell me of the Norton line you refer to?

Scott Norton
Norton dna-project
http://www.nortonfamily.net/DNA.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark MacDonald [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:44 AM
To:
Subject: [DNA] Press Release - Clan Donald USA Genetic Project


Message

CLAN DONALD GENETIC ANNOUNCEMENT

IMPORTANT DALRIADIC ANCESTRAL GENETIC SIGNATURE IDENTIFIED C



February 24, 2004



The Clan Donald USA Genetic Project has identified the genetic signature of
Colla Uais, father of Dalriada. Clan Donald has historically considered
itself as a branch of Clan Colla and as children of Conn. Colla was High
King of Ireland who seized Ulster and then took his followers to Scotland
around 325AD. Colla's descendants Fergus, Loarn and Angus (sons of Erc) were
the principal foundation lines reestablishing the Scottish kingdom of
Dalriada around 465AD. Colla was believed to be a great great great grandson
of Conn of the Hundred Battles, High King of Ireland circa 150AD. A
predicted six mutation spread within approximately 1500 years has identified
MacDonalds (MacDonnells) descended from the kindred of Colla in both the
Irish and Scottish branches of Clan Donald. Not all Clan Donalds are
descended from Colla but the identification of this signature is a major
advance which supports the accuracy of ancient Irish and Scottish oral
histories and genealogies.



Project Director, Mark MacDonald, stated:



"We have built on the data of existing genetic projects including the
MacGregors, gaelic Livingstons, and Campbells to reach a common goal:
understanding the genealogy and history of the Scottish highlands and its
historic link to Ireland. I believe the Y-chromosome DNA signature of Colla
is:



393 390 19 391 385A 385B 426 388
439 389-1 392 389-2

13 24 14 10 11 14
12 12 12 13 13 30



458 459A 459B 455 454 447 437 448
449 464A

18 9 10 11 11 25
15 19 30 15



464B 464C 464D

15 17 17



We have identified this signature and expected close mutations throughout
the highlands and islands and also in Clan Colla from Ireland. We invite
existing genetic projects and genetic researchers for descendants of Colla
and for other Ulster and Connacht lines to join with us in joint research to
further explore this significant finding. Clan Donald's database may be
confidentially examined by prospective joint research participants. In the
meantime, Clan Donald hopes that publication of this genetic signature will
assist other Scottish and Irish studies in understanding their data."



Scottish and Irish clans historically descended from Colla Uais include: (a)
Scotland: MacDonald, MacGregor, MacGillivray, MacEachern, MacMillian,
MacKinnon, MacQuarrie, Campbell, MacPhee, MacInnes; (b) Ireland: Maguire,
MacMahon, MacManus, Agnew, Alexander, Boylan, Cassidy (who were chiefs of
Coole), Connolly (chiefs in Fermanagh), Duffy, Hale, Hanratty (anglicized
Enright), Keenan of Fermanagh, Leahy in Galway, MacCabe of Monaghan and
Caven, MacCann of Clan brassil, MacEvoy, MacVeagh, MacVeigh (anglicized form
of MacUais) in West Meath, Magee in Down and Antrim, MacKenna in Monaghan,
MacOscar (anglicized MacCusker), MacTully, and MacGrath in Fermanagh,
MacNeny (anglicized Bird), MacRory (anglicized Rogers), MacSheehy, Madden,
Norton, O'Carroll, O'Flanagan, O'Hanlon, O'Hart in Tara, and MacQuillan in
Antrim.





Mark E. MacDonald

Director of Clan Donald USA Genetic Project

And National Historian for Clan Donald USA

325 North St. Paul Street, Suite 2400

Dallas, Texas 75201

Direct Dial: (214) 922-9050

Facsimile: (214) 922-9718

Email:











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