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From: "Steven C. Perkins" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Press Release - Clan Donald USA Genetic Project
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:33:17 -0600
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20040324124800.049d87a8@mail.interaccess.com>
In-Reply-To: <BGELIPBIPHEJCIBFDGGCMEJICMAA.mark@macdonaldlaw.com>


Mark:

Upon review of my markers, I am a 24/25 match to the MacDonald markers. The
mismatch is at 458 where I am 15 and the MacDonald is 16.

Here are my 37 markers:

Locus
DYS#
Alleles

1
393
13

2
390
25

3
19*
15

4
391
11

5
385a
11

6
385b
14

7
426
12

8
388
12

9
439
10

10
389-1
14

11
392
11

12
389-2
31

13
458
15

14
459a
8

15
459b
10

16
455
11

17
454
11

18
447
23

19
437
14

20
448
20

21
449
31

22
464a**
12

23
464b**
15

24
464c**
15

25
464d**
16

26
460
11

27
GATA H4
12

28
YCA II a
19

29
YCA II b
21

30
456
17

31
607
16

32
576
17

33
570
18

34
CDY a
34

35
CDY b
37

36
442
12

37
438
11

Later,

Steven C. Perkins


At 01:30 PM 3/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Steven
>No not yet. For that group I seem to be able to sort a number of lines to
>the historical lines with just 25. Noone has upgraded yet.
>
> I hadn't found the Gordon. I had found the McKean and McNeil and had
>informed each of them. I would love to see the 37 results. Let's get back
>in contact now that I have the chiefs' blessings to go public with the
>generic signature. I think you and I are looking for the same family.
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steven C. Perkins [mailto:]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:51 PM
>To:
>Subject: Re: [DNA] Press Release - Clan Donald USA Genetic Project
>
>
>Mark:
>
>As you know, I am a 23/25 match to this haplotype. In my FTDNA results I
>have 5 23/25 matchs and one 24/25 match. Three of those are with
>MacDonalds, 1 is a Gordon, 1 is a McKean, and 1 is a McNeil. I believe
>there was a McAllister but that one seems to have gone private. I and the
>Gordon have had 37 markers tested. We were 32/37. Are any of the
>MacDonalds getting the 37 marker test?
>
>Regards,
>
>Steven C. Perkins
>
>
>
>
>
>At 11:21 AM 3/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> >Message
> >
> >
> >CLAN DONALD USA GENETIC PROJECT R1A ANNOUNCEMENT
> >
> >
> >
> >March 18, 2004
> >
> >
> >
> >The Clan Donald USA Genetic Project has established a 25 marker signature
> >for identifying descendants of Somerled, ancestor to the MacDonalds,
> >MacDougalls and MacAlisters. Somerled was an important figure in the
> >history of the western highlands of Scotland. He died in 1164 attacking
> >Glasgow with 160 ships. His descendants controlled most of the west coast
> >of Scotland and the Hebrides for more than 500 years.
> >
> >
> >
> >The MacDonalds are currently searching for the paternal ancestors of
> >Somerled. Genetic studies have demonstrated that Clan Donald is heavily
> >peopled with descendants of Colla, the historical father of the kingdom of
> >Dalriada. The genetic studies by Clan Donald USA concur with a parallel
> >finding by Professor Sykes of Oxford that all lines descended from Somerled
> >are Norwegian Viking in origin rather than Dalriadic gael. Clan Donald
> >seeks to determine the Norwegian source of that line, whether it be found
>in
> >Iceland, Scotland, Iceland, Norway, the Orkneys or the Isle of Man. Any
> >person who has a genetic signature within haplogroup R1a similar in
> >substantial part to Somerled’s signature is urged to contact the Clan
>Donald
> >USA Genetic Project through its Director: Mark MacDonald
> >(). The signature is:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >393 390 19 391 385a 385b
> >426 388 439 398-1 392 389-2
> >458
> >
> >13 25 15 11 11 14
> >12 12 10 14 11 31
> >16
> >
> >
> >
> >459a 459b 455 454 447 437
> >448 449 464a 464b 464c 464c
> >
> >8 10 11 11 23 14
> >20 31 12 15 15 16
> >
> >
> >
> >Any persons of known pure paternal descent from Harald Fairhaired, Eric
> >Bloodaxe, Rognvald of Møre, Thorfinn the Mighty, St. Olaf, Harald Hardrada,
> >Jarl Hacon, the Arnesons of Giske, or the Viking Kings of Man are of
>special
> >interest. Each of these lines are historically present in maternal lines
>of
> >the sons of Somerled through his wife, Ragnhilda. They are potential
> >starting points for our search. Persons who do not know their genetic
> >markers but know that they have an ancestry rooted near Trondheim, Alesund,
> >Giske or Møre in Norway, Iceland, the Orkneys or the Isle of Man are also
> >welcome to participate in this study.
> >
> >
> >
> >Mark E. MacDonald
> >
> >Director Genetic Project and
> >
> >National Historian for Clan Donald USA
> >
> >325 North St. Paul Street, Suite 2400
> >
> >Dallas, Texas 75201
> >
> >Direct Dial: (214) 922-9050
> >
> >Facsimile: (214) 922-9718
> >
> >Email:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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