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From: Mike Humphrey <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Alan Derriscott's report on his GeoGene report
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:55:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Alan, Ken ...Thanks for this exchange. Ken, your question was a bullseye for me: I haveprecisely the same curiousity. It's central to my human population research,and I'm currently waiting for finer resolution of SNP tests. I would like toknow, hopefully in the near future, which "subgroup" of "I" I'm in. Looking to reading the McDonald Institute Monograph.Mike ...=======================================================--- Alan Derriscott wrote:> > ----- Original Message -----> From: "Ken Nordtvedt" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 4:25 PM> Subject: Re: [DNA] Alan Derriscott's report on his GeoGene report> > > Dear Ken> You wrote:-> > Do your sources of recent information shed any light on the time and> > location of the split of haplogroup "I" into Ia and Ib? This split seems> > very fundamental and geographically robust in Europe. Anything that can> be> > said about it would probably tell us a lot about the dispersal of the> > Gravettians through Europe. > I thought!
it best
to answer this separately, as it is the nub of my future> research, and further SNP tests when they become available.> > The Haplogroup I1a and I1b split (P38+(/M253+)/P30+/P37.2+; where> the + mark reads 'positve'.) probably happened at Dolni Vestonice,> Czech Republic, over a period of 20k years.> > It seems likely that , M170positve, occurred 40k years ago, then with> periods> of about 10k years, the succeeding UEPs occurred up to M26+ and P40+ etc.> > Please check out my rule of thumb probabilities from the McDonald Institute> Monograph publication.> > Best wishes, Alan.> > Alan J.Derriscott,> Wallasey, Wirral, England,> > > > ==============================> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more.> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237>;

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