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From: Steve Williamson <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Haplotype "Q" in Shetland Islands
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 03:42:32 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <20040511055007.28475.qmail@web50403.mail.yahoo.com>


David,
It is an historical fact that the Vikings took back
natives ("skraelings") from the New World. That could
be the source for your findings. In 1009, according to
"Erik the Red's Saga," 2 young male Greenlanders were
adopted, given Norse names, and taken back to
somewhere in Europe: why not Shetland? (See Jack
Forbes, "Africans and Native Americans," p. 19,
citing Gwyn Jones, "The Norse Atlantic Saga")

Curiously enough, my own British line is Haplogroup
J2, yet 1 of my matches is an Inuit in Greenland (per
Y STR database). Genes flowed both ways. It's in the
sagas, and now it appears we're seeing it in DNA.

Also, if you look in Dr Sykes' book "The 7 Daughters
of Eve," p. 294, he mentions Korean & Polynesian mtDNA
found in Scotland.

Steve Williamson

--- David Faux <> wrote:
> Hello all:
>
> In the windswept islands of the North Atlantic there
> is a DNA mystery which begs for an explanation.
>
> I was given access to the skeleton findings of a
> Shetland database a while back and was astounded to
> learn that 8% of the sample were typed at haplogroup
> Q - the same percentage as haplogroup I. My first
> "Q" emerged recently in a participant with a
> patronymic surname.
>
> The matches in the Haplogroup Database are 1 exact
> Shetland; and at the one step mutation level, 2 from
> Shetland and 2 from Iceland; and at the two step
> mutation level, 1 from Iceland and 1 from Norway.
> Dr. Wilson also indicated that he has found 1 Q in
> his large Orkney database.
>
> Clearly the distribution pattern points to a
> Norwegian source dating back to Viking times. But
> how did an East Asian haplotype find its was to
> Norway considering that it is not (as I recall) seen
> in any samples of the surrounding countries. I have
> entertained the possibility that a group of
> Greenland Inuit were blown off course 2000 years ago
> - but what will be needed here is a SNP test since
> the samples were not broken into Q versus Q3 (which
> charactieizes Native American haplotypes). Since
> there are Greenland Inuit samples in the database,
> and no mathes emerged, it does seem unlikely, but
> there could be a founder effect here so who knows.
> Fascinating though, and will need to be intensely
> investigated.
>
> David.
>
>
> Dr. David K. Faux, P.O. Box 192, Seal Beach, CA,
> 90740, USA
>
>
> www.davidkfaux.org
>
>
>
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