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From: David Faux <>
Subject: Haplotype "Q" in Shetland Islands, Vikings, and Picts
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 00:28:51 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <001301c437a2$7a2c74e0$7c00a8c0@William>


Bill:

We are of the opinion that the Q we are seeing long predates the Viking invasions, and has a Central Asian origin at some point in the ancient past. There are pockets in Norway where this haplogroup is found at relatively high frequencies.

Also we do not expect to find any Native American (Inuit) mtDNA haplogroups in our study. To the best of my knowledge none have been seen in previous studies of this area, and if perchance any does show up it could best be explained as a function of the Hudson's Bay Company activities in the 16 and 1700s. A majority of the employees of this firm that controlled about 50% of what is today Canada were Orcadians, many of whom had "country wives" (Cree, Ojibway, Athapaskan etc.). Should any haplogroup A to D or X show up in Orkney or elsewhere in the vicinity, the most parsimonious explanation of this finding would relate to HBC returnees.

What we may be able to answer eventually with Y-DNA and mtDNA work is whether the aboriginal Pictish peoples of the Northern Isles survived the Viking onslaught and "seamlessly" merged with the invaders (as the evidence now suggests that the British did when the Anglo - Saxons invaded; and the Anglo - Saxon / British did at the time of the Danish Viking incursions).

David.

Lowe DNA <> wrote:
David...

Thanks for the update from 8 to 4 percent....that is still a high percentage
for Aleut cross-over from Greenland and/or
Iceland...or Central Asia.....And I was not aware of any Q's found in
Norway...?? However, shall anticipate findings and emails from you and Jim
Wilson on this subject.....Will you and Jim include tests on the ladies to
find possible maternal haplagroups A-X in these same populations....???

As yet, I have not been able to find academic papers that have detailed and
tied together Q or Q3 NRY haplogroups, and A-X mtDNA haplagroups, in the
Scandinavian countries....nor any that have correlated these
paternal/maternal groups back to the Aleut populations in the NW Atlantic or
to migrations of Q's from Asia to the Atlantic coast by blood group or some
other autosomal marker....It would ironic if some of these Shetland Q's
turned out to be Q3-M3 which is definitely Amerindian...



Dr. David K. Faux, P.O. Box 192, Seal Beach, CA, 90740, USA


www.davidkfaux.org



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