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From: "DONALD MILLIGAN" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Differentiating I1c and I1a
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 15:42:31 -0700
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Perhaps, Bronze Age Beaker/Hallstatt folk from Switzerland similar to the "Archer of Stonehenge" who had garb from Switzerland?
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From: Patrick Guinness<mailto:>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:50 AM
Subject: [DNA] Differentiating I1c and I1a


At 3:17 pm +0100 1/6/04, gareth.henson wrote:
>The Y-str database suggests a potential I1c "hotspot" at Berne, Switzerland
>where 6 out of 91 entries are 0-2 steps from the following haplotype:
>DYS19 = 15, DYS389 = 14,31, DYS390 = 23, DYS391 = 10, DYS392 = 12, DYS393 =
>14, DYS385 = 15,15.

Certainly the Irish I1c samples have DYS385 14,15 or 15,15 or 15,16
or 15,17, and "high" 393 *14 or *15. DYS388 is usually *13. Last
year I thought it was group G.

I1c doesn't seem to have a cultural / linguistic / area on which to
hypothesise an invasion or ethnic group. It's been in the British
Isles since before 1AD but some Norse or Anglo-Saxons must have
brought it west as well. Useful for genealogy as it is rare.

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Patrick Guinness

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