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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Calling all Highland Scot I1a!
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:02:43 -0600
References: <BAY4-F40wmjPAVH97bo00073c36@hotmail.com>


Looks to me like a R1b with the slightly unusual "14" at DYS19. Does this
differ from what FTDNA told you?

Ken


----- Original Message -----
From: "DONALD MILLIGAN" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 6:19 PM
Subject: RE: [DNA] Calling all Highland Scot I1a!


> Hi Ken & others who may have some comments. In response to Ken's
suggestion,
> I'm sending my signature from FTDNA for review & comment. Thank You
>
> Earliest
> ancestor traced is "Malgon" found in 1210 documentin Nithsdale, Scotland
in
> a community of Brythonic-speakers & Gaelic-speakers. Nithsdale is part of
> Dumfriesshire which is east of Galloway. The Britons of Nithsdale are
> connected to the Britons of Strathclyde. Macrath Ap Molegan, son of
Malgon,
> bears a Gaelic first name & a Brythonic (Welsh) surname. "Ap" is the
> Brythonic equiv. of "Mac" from what I understand.
>
> 1. DYSS 393 = 13
>
> 2. DYS 390 = 25
>
> 3. DYS 19* = 19 = 14
>
> 4. DYS 391 = 11
>
> 5. DYS 385a = 11
>
> 6. DYS 385b = 13
>
> 7. DYS 426 = 12
>
> 8. DYS 388 = 12
>
> 9. DYS 439 = 12
>
> 10. DYS 389-1 = 13
>
> 11. DYS 392 = 14
>
> 12. DYS 389-2 = 29
>
> 13. DYS 458 = 17
>
> 14. DYS 459a = 9
>
> 15. DYS 459b = 10
>
> 16. DYS 455 = 11
>
> 17. DYS 454 = 11
>
> 18. DYS 447 = 25
>
> 19. DYS 437 = 15
>
> 20. DYS 448 = 18
>
> 21. DYS 449 = 30
>
> 22. DYS 464a = 15
>
> 23. DYS 464b = 16
>
> 24. DYS 464c = 17
>
> 25. DYS464d = 17
>
>
>
>
>
> Don Milligan
> 3003 South 253rd Street
> Kent, WA 98032
> 253 941-0514
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
> >Reply-To:
> >To:
> >Subject: [DNA] Calling all Highland Scot I1a!
> >Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 11:41:14 -0600
> >
> >My recent look at DYS390 repeat values for I1a around Europe (see recent
> >posting) seems to show that Anglo-Saxons and Danes are rich in "22"
repeats
> >(relative to "23") while Norwegians who are likely to be descendants of
> >Norse Vikings who settled coastal Scotland and the nearby Isles are rich
in
> >"23" repeats (relative to "22").
> >
> >If enough of you studying Highland Scot surnames could check your
> >statistics of the I1a who show up (they may be too rare), we might be
able
> >to check this apparent trend. I hasten to point out that Lowland Scot
> >surnames will probably not confirm this. They could very well have I1a
> >from Anglo-Saxon and Danelaw I1a people who moved up into the lowlands.
> >
> >Ken
> >
> >
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