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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Re: R1b Across Europe
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:17:20 -0600
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London has 24/10 to the tune of 50 percent of AMH 24/11 and more than 23/11.
Same with Ireland. 24/10 for an individual person could be a one-step
mutation from the dominant 24/11 or descendant of the founder of the
smaller modal haplotype 24/10, or a 1-step mutation from the even smaller
23/10 modal haplotype, or even less probable scenarios. I could estimate
the relative odds of these alternatives, but to what end? I am doing
statistical and geographical studies with database collections of many
haplotypes to see if I can learn something about the movements of different
"tribes" of R1b; too many people seem excessively pessimistic about
achieving this because they then mentally drift back to what does this say
about their individual haplotype? It tilts the odds concerning deep
origins, that's all.

Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:47 AM
Subject: [DNA] Re: R1b Across Europe


>
> Hey Folks,
>
> I'm a 24/10 also. But as far as I know, there is no Scottish or Irish
> paternal connection for my ancestors, and I know them with near certainty
> back to 1600. Possibly 24/10 in Britain reflects many ancient Celtic
tribes.
> If so, there should be plenty of it all over England. Anyone know if this
is
> the case?
>
>
> Shane
>


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