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From: ellen Levy <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Red and Blonde Hair and the South Pacific
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:38:20 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <20040713021621.54181.qmail@web52504.mail.yahoo.com>


Jan:

No insult intended here, I'm just wondering what you
mean by "Cro-Magnon ancestry"?

Many of the populations of North Africa have West
Eurasian Y-chromosome & MtDNA backgrounds. This is
due to complex migrations of peoples into and out of
Europe from North Africa, as well as migrations to and
from the Middle East.

Ellen Coffman

--- Janell J <> wrote:
> The fair hair in North Africans can be attributed to
> Cro-magnon ancestry, I believe, or more recent
> European admixture. Certain fair haired individuals
> in the rest of Africa may be the result of either
> European admixture, or simply an occurrence of an
> archaic trait - much like what we may see in the
> Pacific.
>
> I don't know what he means by "Black Negroid
> Grimaldis" fading to white, but what is more likely
> the case is that some early N. African aboriginals
> migrated into Europe and were absorbed into the
> aboriginal population there.
>
> - Jan
>
> wrote:
> In a message dated 7/12/2004 8:16:49 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> writes:
> Hence, it is proper to say that blonde hair
> originated in Black Negroids
> >long before the adaptation of the Black Negroid
> Grimaldis to Europe and the
> >lightening of their skin from Black to fair about
> 30,000 years ago.
> >(Read more on this from "Susu Economics," pub. by
> www.AuthorHouse.com also
> >"Civilization or Barbarism
> I'm unclear who wrote the above, but it sounds like
> nonsense to me. It makes
> as much sense to say black hair among Africans,
> Melanesians, etc., originated
> in black-haired Nordics, Mongolians or Native
> Americans. More likely
> blond/red haired Africans, etc. are descendants of
> your much more recent Europeans
> who vacationed for a while on their beaches.
>
> Exactly what environmental factors cause blond or
> red hair to occur in people
> not normally associated with such hair color? How do
> you know where the
> Gimaldis came from and what color skin they had
> 30,000 years ago?? Isn't this the
> sort of question recent DNA advances may eventually
> clarify? You must be way
> ahead of the curve.
>
> What does economics have to do with genetics?
> Frankly, I think you are an
> adherent to some agenda akin to Lysenkoism, long ago
> discredited, and are
> posting this lunacy here for your own ulterior
> motives. There is no inheritance of
> acquired characteristics. This is the false basis of
> communism and has done
> great harm in the world over the last couple of
> centuries. No need to argue
> further. You are all wet!
>
> Len
>
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