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From: Jon Spencer <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Unable to estimate haplogroup even at 37 markers
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <REME20041013134619@alum.mit.edu>


John

You have a very gifted way of sending the dart to score dead center. Well said and to the point.

John Chandler <> wrote:
Ana wrote:
> I don't believe nor am I saying that at all, and I would not profess to
> say that on the basis of just 12, 25 or 37 markers and an estimated
> Haplogroup that they can pick out THE ancestor from 30,000
> contributors.

But's that's exactly what you *are* doing, according to your report.
You say you have this deep emotional response to the haplogroup
determination itself, particularly in the minority of cases where,
for example, the Y haplogroup is other than R1b. That haplogroup
is the contribution of exactly *one* among the 30,000 contributors,
and you are effectively writing off all the rest. Well, of course,
the males among your group can take two tests and thus develop a
deep emotional bond with *two* of the 30,000 ancestors, but the
rest are all treated as zeroes. That's what I find troubling.

I hasten to add that I am not saying your group is any different
from any others who may be forming deep emotional bonds with
*one* unknown ancestor to the exclusion of countless others who
are equally lovable.

John Chandler


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