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From: "Roberta J. Estes" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Question on Test Results Numbers..E3b&R1b
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:17:25 -0500
In-Reply-To: <20041129195015.88356.qmail@web52410.mail.yahoo.com>


Those folks who have done the research on the haplogroups are just
surname administrators like the rest of us (well many of us anyway).
They aren't scientists performing part of their job responsibilities,
they are volunteers with curiosity (obcession?). I don't think that
everyone realizes, especially newbies, that the participants on the list
are just genealogists like the rest of us, with very few exceptions, not
professionals in the genetics field. They took a group they had a
fundamental interest in and did the data mining and research and then
thankfully shared it with the rest of us. If those who have rare
haplogroups, like E3b, for demonstration purposes, are interested, I
suggest that perhaps you do the same research that Ken or Eldon or Whit
or Grant or any of the other folks who have "adopted" a haplogroup to
study have done. It should be somewhat easier since there shouldn't be
so much data as with the larger groups. Maybe the opposite problem
exists actually, but we won't know until someone trys.

In fact, maybe there is a group of folks for each of the rare
haplogroups who are interested and would be willing to work together and
share their results. I'm sure that the methods Ken and others have used
are not secrets and they would be most happy to share.

I run several surname studies, and all of my HGs fall into the groups
where a significant amount of research has been done or R1b which is
just so big as to be overwhelming as yet (although with time I'm sure it
will be sliced and diced as well). I am incredibly grateful for the
data mining and research contributions of others who have taken the time
to analyze these groups. I think those of you who have these unique and
as yet un-mined groups also have a unique opportunity to contribute to
the list.

So Jeffrey, are you volunteering to coordinate E3b? You won't have to
wait so long for results;)

Roberta Estes

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Stewart [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:50 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [DNA] Question on Test Results Numbers..E3b&R1b


Ellen,
I have followed this list for several months, and there is very little
chatter about any HGs exempt R1a or R1b. This is understandable since
E3b makes up around 2% of FTDNA database, however I have read posts from
confused surname administrators seeking answers for their equally
confused participants; no reply.
If this list is in fact about all DNA and if in fact those surname
groups are about all participants with the sponsored surname then those
administrators and participants questions should be addressed. I await
in breathless anticipation.

Jeffrey Stewart

ellen Levy <> wrote:
Jim:

I must disagree with your assessment. The posters to
this list are well-educated about most of the
haplogroups, both Y chromo. & MtDNA. Some specialize
in analyzing certain groups over others and their
knowledged has been an invaluable source of
information on the List. I think Ken's recent posting
regarding this was incredibly well-stated.

What is it specifically you would like to know about
E3b? I've examined this haplogroup a bit and would
certainly been willing to try to answer inquiries
about it. I think others on the List would be willing
to give it a go as well if you have specific questions regarding this
haplogroups origins, distribution, etc.

Ellen Coffman


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> but no one knows anything about eb3 here just r1h-1a
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