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From: "Phil Goff" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] R1a1 - M17 as an Ancestral (circa 9000 YBP) North American Lineage
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:33:27 -0500
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In West Virginia, there are numerous stone carvings that some Celtic
scholars recognize as being written in the Old Irish ogham language. The
petroglyphs may date to about 500 AD. The theory is that they were carved by
Irish missionaries under Saint Brendan. See
http://www.castletown.com/brendan.htm for details. I'm not passing judgment
on whether I believe this theory, but I've seen pictures of the petroglyphs
and the translations and don't believe these are random markings. My
personal belief is that there was a lot more interaction between Europe and
America than the Vikings and Columbus. Anyhow, for what it is worth, this is
a possible source of European Y-DNA into the NA population.
Phil Goff
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Wilson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] R1a1 - M17 as an Ancestral (circa 9000 YBP) North
American Lineage
> Interesting, but:
>
> (1) Albinism;
>
> (2) the Jamestown Colony was founded a century after the Columbian
> expeditions. That leaves ample time for unrecorded occasional social
> contact between Europeans and inhabitants of coastal North America.
>
> Show me 10 lightly complected and blond indigenous individuals in as many
> locations at about the same time, and I'll pay attention. One is just a
> curiosity.
>
> More cynical than usual this morning,
>
> David Wilson
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Bradford <>
> Sent: Dec 27, 2004 7:29 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [DNA] R1a1 - M17 as an Ancestral (circa 9000 YBP) North
> American Lineage
>
>
> From George Percy's account of the first months of the
> Jamestown colony:
>
> "At Port Cotage in our Voyage up the River, we saw a
> Savage boy about the age of ten yeeres, which had a
> head of haire of a perfect yellow and a reasonable
> white skinne, which is a Miracle amongst all Savages."
>
> --- Geoff Howard <> wrote:
>
>> I have never heard anything about this either. What
>> scientific or historical
>> sources are you using for blond haired blue eyed
>> Native Americans? I would
>> think that would be some SERIOUS news to the world.
>>
>> Geoff Howard
>
>
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