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From: Charles <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Testing my hypothesis sooner ... a way it could be done
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:33:54 -0500
Thanks for the comments. I agree whole heartedly with your comments.
FamilyTreeDNA would probably have to go back and re-extract some of the
basic data, and get updated MRCA descendant trees from the surname
project participants such as I (I participated in that project), as many
of the projects have added a few more tested descent lines from the
MRCA, and done more testing in the prior lines since FTDNA's study of
DYS marker mutation rates project was started over a year or so ago. But
they have a lot more of the necessary data and the contacts to study
surname specific, male line haplotype rates such I have hypothesized, in
a much quicker if they wished to do it.
But then again as to who can move faster their is power in numbers too.
Synergism and blogging is a major factor in today's online world which
is pushing the envelope in many traditional fields. Most visibly, look
at what is happening in the news media sector, and many other sectors as
a result of blogging. In case anyone doesn't know, BLOG is a neologism
derived from the neologistic use of the English word Web (from the world
wide web and the internet use) and the Greek rooted word Log ... and
thus BLOG. ;-) The word BLOG has now left the niche of the internet and
is now entering the mainstream. It is the talk of times in circles in
Washington and elsewhere. I have even added the term to my new project
and my older ones. It may help people find us via google.com.
And you are right. I find it very interesting to read the free-style
comments section on the projects. That was one of the nice parts of all
And participating in my new project is also another way the Project
Administrators can advertise and promote their surname project. I have
no problem with adding a simple sentence to one's comments to the
effect, new participants to my project are welcome, say especially for
one son of the MRCA who you are looking for to be tested, etc.
And By having the URL for their webpage in my log they will get more hit
credits in the google.com algorithm. The more places you promote your
project URL the more likely like minded and searching people will find you.
Synergy at Work.
New Surname Project/Male Line Specific Haplotype Mutation Rate BLOG:
> In a message dated 01/16/05 9:45:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>>You know, the DNA testing companies have the data already in-house, imo,
>>to test my hypothesis, and maybe other conjectured hypothesis ideas too.
> I had the same thought. FTDNA for one has access to a lot of data from their
> mutation study, and I'm sure was it was a laborious job to sift through it and
> put it in a form amenable to further analysis. I'd like to get my hands on it
> <g>, but they may consider it proprietary, and it may have been collected
> under a confidentiality agreement, so that's probably not a realistic wish.
> However, we could always suggest topics for another student dissertation. "Data
> mining" is a buzzword in bioinformatics, and there are a lot of different ways
> they could look at the data.
> But there's certainly no harm in keeping the log going -- you've already put
> in a lot of effort to set it up, and I think it's useful for project
> coordinators to have a centralized place to see the variations in surname projects,
> whatever the underlying mechanism. Plus the comments and informal observations in
> a log are fun to read!
> Ann Turner - GENEALOGY-DNA List Administrator
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