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Subject: RE: [DNA] A New Line of Crains Discovered
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:33:02 -0500


Janet,

I concur with both Charles and Mark. If the participants can afford the
cost of going to 25 markers (or even 37), they should do so whether they
expect to establish a closer match or not. The additional information will
be informative regardless of which direction it points.

The two cousins look like exemplars of the 25/11/14 variety of R1b, which
is strongly represented in Ireland and Scotland. The singleton Crain may be
associated with that group, but with mutations at 391 and 385b.

Neither 391 nor 385 is a speedy mutator, but then neither is 392, where
your lone-wolf Crain matches the two cousins. The 14 at 392 is unusual for
R1b. It could be that the lone Crain haplotype represents mutations from
the 25/11/14 signature back toward the R1b modal, or it could be an
instance of a "normal" R1b showing some mutations (at 390 and 392) in the
direction of the Irish and Scot variety.

More tested markers would bring clarity to this situation. If you go to 25
markers for these three, look at 448 and 449. If you extend to 37, check
out 456 and 607 as well. Here's a link to a page with information about the
modal values in 25/11/14:

http://home.earthlink.net/~wilsondna/DYS=14_table.htm

David Wilson



Original Message:
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From: Charles
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 18:43:53 -0500
To:
Subject: Re: [DNA] A New Line of Crains Discovered

<<snip>>

The bottom line, imo, is that if the funds are available, I would
probably pursue testing to 25 markers, just to see what turns up. More
data is always better than less.

Charles Kerchner
Kerchner Surname Project Admin
http://www.kerchner.com/kerchdna.htm
http://www.kerchner.com/dna-info.htm

<<snip>>



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