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Subject: Re: [DNA] A New Line of Crains Discovered - Scottish/border?
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 05:19:37 EST
In a message dated 3/1/2005 3:11:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
writes:
> 13 29542 Crane (crain)-13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 11 13 14 29
>
In a message dated 3/1/2005 5:34:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
writes:
> The two cousins look like exemplars of the 25/11/14 variety of R1b, which
> is strongly represented in Ireland and Scotland.
In a message dated 3/1/2005 4:21:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,
writes:
> MacCrains who lived on
> Islay and Jura were Clan Donald South. Those islands were at the very
> heart of the Lordship of the Isles. MacCrain means son of the Boar.
>
> I've never checked the name in contexts other than Islay and Jura.
> Black, Surnames of Scotland suggests that you also check the Scottish
> borders under the names Swine and Swinton.
>
I found this discussion fascinating as I have a group of WEBBs with the
following values (although the last of the 3 is in the "iffy" category of being
related, included only by virtue of sharing with the other 2 some alleles not so
common among R1b markers AND the surname). All these have 37 markers -- 2st
are 34/37, 3rd is 28/37 with the other two (but on differing sets of 9
markers).
13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29
13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29
13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 14 14 31
So I would also be interested in seeing additional markers. Any of you
Scottish/Borders experts have info re WEBBs in this area? Does anyone have a
participant who looks like the third sample?
Anne
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