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Subject: Re: [DNA] Tinney surname back to 4000 B.C.
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 10:09:19 EST
Tom wrote:
. . .
Since "Jensen's Scholars' Guide to Humanities & Social
Sciences" includes Religious history, [Richard Jensen,
http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/
. . . "a scholar with many books and articles; he was
professor of history for over 35 years at several schools,
including the University of Illinois, Harvard, Michigan,
West Point, and Moscow State University"], I assumed
there was the same level of maturity on this list, one
that could also dispassionately evaluate genealogy
from historical belief sources.
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REPLY:
Not sure what this has to do the topic of DNA and genealogy, or even
religion. Your quote about Jensen "a scholar with many books...." was made by Jensen
himself, about himself, printed on his website. The link you provided is
called Scholar's Guide to the WWW" . It is merely a reference page to hundreds
of other links. It includes 17 categories - Education, On-Line Maps, Religion,
among others. He does not rate the importance or relevance of any to
research. Google's link to comic books is listed just before Religion. This
"Scholar's Guide to the WWW" is also just one link listed in "Jensen's Web Guides"
with major categories such "Vietnam War Bibliography" and "Railroad History".
Jensen's site may be a very good reference site. There are thousands like
it. However, the fact that he lists religious sites somewhere down the line,
doesn't mean he supports using religion as a research tool in genealogy.
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Tom wrote:
. . .
The posting of the Tinney
surname study appears to have touched some tender
nerves, and proved otherwise. To me, Religion & Culture
http://www.academic-genealogy.com/archives.htm#Religion
are inseparably connected in all historical studies
of ethnic heritage. Additionally, having done a brief
review of past posts to the list, I noticed some desire
to have layman discussions, as in quoted news articles.
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REPLY:
Again, the site you list is more of an all purpose site, albeit more
genealogy oriented. It lists business, government, along with religious and
genealogical links. Same comments as above.
The "desire to have layman discussions, as in quoted news articles" is not
really a desire. Someone discovers an article about DNA created by the popular
press. He presents it to the list where those who wish may critique or
comment on it. Often what the article says is not what was originally stated in
the research results.
You touched "tender nerves", not merely because you claim you can trace your
ancestors back 6000 years. We are in awe. Most of us can only go back a few
hundred or maybe 1000 years. But you've done the ultimate - going all the way
back to Adam. How can we top that? And we're not supposed to question how
this is done?
Of more concern to us is your lack of giving us any original information. We
ask questions and you respond with quotes or links that have nothing to do
with the original question. When we ask why you don't believe DNA is useful in
genealogical studies - sorry, sending us a link to a site that a "scholar"
created that just happens to include a few religious sites, among its thousands
- does not mean he supports your view that religion is important in
researching ancestors. We just want your opinion - no links no quotes - just you.
Only then can we have a fair debate.
Bill Davenport
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