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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Genealogy and DNA LIMITATIONS: Understanding exactly how tests reinfo
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 13:54:13 -0700
The haplotype has many earmarks of being Dinaric I1b. "Dinaric" refers to
the common form of I1b most prevalent in the Balkans but also heavy
throughout much of eastern Europe. It is only present in far western
Europe in tiny quantities and that is probably why you have not found a
match. The databases you are looking in are heavily biased toward British
Isles and other places of NW Europe which are origins of the English
speaking people. I bet you could find a match in some databases which are
floating around as supplements to papers on yhaplotypes in Croatia, or the
Rootsi paper of May 2004 which explored the whole haplogroup I including I1b
heavily sampled in eastern Europe.
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Subject: Re: [DNA] Genealogy and DNA LIMITATIONS: Understanding exactly how
> The following unusual 25 Marker Haplotype was discussed earlier on this
> thread. It was estimated by FTDNA as R1a,. but others felt it was very
> for that HG.
> I have just input this to Whit Athey's calculator and find it is well
> HG I1b at 60/100. Would this be considered an accurate/reliable level of
> confidence or would an SNP test still be recommended?
> Can anyone on the list let me know what REOs might have been found for
> This person is from a family which has lived in the west of Ireland (Co.
> Clare) for at least 300 years with no suggestion of any other ethnicity.
> no matches even at the 12 marker level.
> 13 22 16 11 11 15 11 13 10 14 11 31
> 17 8 10 11 11 25 15 20 29 12 12 14 14
> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more.
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