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From: "David Wilson" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Assistance with Results Interpretation
Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 07:10:48 -0700
In-Reply-To: <003701c5516a$ef1b1580$72a0bf43@YOURF8387228BF>


John and Phil,

Sounds to me as though you two have the makings of a really interesting
Barlow conversation.

My point in replying is just to strengthen Phil's caution that without
supplementary evidence 33/37 and 34/37 matches are not really as close as
they may seem. I have several such matches (and even one 35/37) with other
surnames. But I'm still waiting for the second Wilson with anything even
remotely close to a match as close as those.

David Wilson

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Goff [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:07 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [DNA] Assistance with Results Interpretation


John,

I did a double-take when I read your message because I have one participant
in the Goff Surname DNA Study that matches the Barlow family 25/25 and
another 12/12. The 25/25 match is waiting for the third panel of the total
37 markers. See http://home.comcast.net/~philgoff/DNAresults.htm for
details. I checked your kit # and find that your closest match is to the R1b
Barlows while my participant is an exact match for the I (most likely I1a)
Barlows. Re your results, do you know of any possible connection with the
Barlow family, such as families traditions or geographical proximity?
Secondly, if there is no apparent geographical or other connection, it seems
to me that a 33/37 or 34/37 match in haplogroup R1b is a bit of a stretch.

In the case of my two participants, they each descend from separate Goff
families that lived in Tennessee. Descendants of these two families, plus
another Goff family, all have family traditions that their ancestor was born
a Barlow (or a variant), orphaned and then adopted by a Goff family. The
Barlow family that is an exact match for these participants also lived in
TN. If the match holds up at 37 markers, I believe we will have confirmed
this family tradition and confirmed that these three Goff ancestors were
most likely brothers.

Because John and I have similar situations, I'd like to append my Barlow
connection to his email and also ask for comment. Thanks,

Phil Goff

----- Original Message -----
From: "M True" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:19 AM
Subject: [DNA] Assistance with Results Interpretation


> Good morning fellow group members,
>
> My name is John Eckersley and I would be grateful to receive people's
> comments on or interpretation of the following please:
>
> 1. Due to the similarity of my results with a group in the Barlow DNA
> project I have asked for my results to be posted with their project. A
> very recent match between myself and a new Barlow candidate has just
> occurred at 33/37 using the Stepwise Model. However 2 of the steps occur
> at CDYa which FTDNA have as one of their faster mutating markers. Am I
> correct in thinking when using the FTDNA hybrid model I should interpret
> this difference as 1 not 2, in FTDNA terms making us 34/37 = related?
>
> my kit is # 22784, the close matching Barlow project member is kit # 30538
> http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Options/BARLOWDNAPROJECT.htm
>
>
>
> 2. We all appear to have a version of the AMH however the DYS393=12 is a
> common feature of the Barlow subgroup marked in Blue. I would be very
> interested to hear what Bonnie, Anne, Ken, David etc have to say about
> this feature and any other of the markers which they feel may have
> significant values.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Eckersley
> Eckersley Surname Project Co-Ordinator
>
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