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From: "Mark MacDonald" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] DNA shows Celtic hero Somerled's Viking roots
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:51:20 -0500
In-Reply-To: <00bb01c54a9e$149da0d0$c6559045@Ken1>


Ken
Doug correctly described Somerled's wife as including the Rurikid dynasty of
Kiev and Novrogod. Elspeth,daughter of Vladimir Prince of Kiev and Novgorad
who converted Russia to the Eastern Orthodox Church, married King Harald
Hardrada of Norway who invaded England in 1066. Harald was in Kiev after the
death of his brother, St Olaf. St Olaf was Vladimir's son in law.

Ragnhilda also descends from St Olaf, King Harald the Fairhaired first king
of all Norway, his son Erik Blood Ax ( who became king of Dublin and York
when expelled from Norway), King Harald Grey Cloak of Norway, King Erik the
Victorious of Sweden, King Gorm the Old ( founder of the current Danish
monarchy), King Eric Bitling of the Isle of Man( her father), Thorfin the
Mighty of Orkney, Sigurd the Stout of Orkney ( who sought the highkingship
of Ireland in 1014),and the kings of Poland through marriage of another King
of Norway into the Polish royal house.

I can trace her lineage back 11 generations with all grandparents on both
sides from Heimskringla, Orkneyinga saga, and the Russian primary
chronicles.

Mark MacDonald
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Nordtvedt [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:25 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [DNA] DNA shows Celtic hero Somerled's Viking roots

I take it you threw in the Ukranian and Polish ancestry because of
connections to the Scandinavian dynasty in Kiev? If not, what ties in those
places?

Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug McDonald" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] DNA shows Celtic hero Somerled's Viking roots


> Raymond Whritenour wrote:
> > And see how carelessly this result is interpreted! Somerled may have
> > been 90% "Celtic," but because of his male-line signature, he's somehow
> > considered "Viking."
>
> Somerled himself has unknown ancestry.
>
> But his wife, and mother of his children with paper trails,
> Ragnhilda, was mostly Scandinavian, with some Irish, Scottish,
> Danish, Ukranian and Polish ancestry.
>
> Doug McDonald
>
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